From: Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>
Subject: Re: zram OOM behavior
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:14:09 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA25o9RLNeDCKw7M7qQKs_L_+u+yti1KkLH4WU2PQ3cgRekuGA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1210302142510.26588@chino.kir.corp.google.com>
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:46 PM, David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012, Luigi Semenzato wrote:
>
>> Actually, there is a very simple fix:
>>
>> @@ -355,14 +364,6 @@ static struct task_struct
>> *select_bad_process(unsigned int *ppoints,
>> if (p == current) {
>> chosen = p;
>> *ppoints = 1000;
>> - } else if (!force_kill) {
>> - /*
>> - * If this task is not being ptraced on exit,
>> - * then wait for it to finish before killing
>> - * some other task unnecessarily.
>> - */
>> - if (!(p->group_leader->ptrace & PT_TRACE_EXIT))
>> - return ERR_PTR(-1UL);
>> }
>> }
>>
>> I'd rather kill some other task unnecessarily than hang! My load
>> works fine with this change.
>>
>
> That's not an acceptable "fix" at all, it will lead to unnecessarily
> killing processes when others are in the exit path, i.e. every oom kill
> would kill two or three or more processes instead of just one.
I am sorry, I didn't mean to suggest that this is the right fix for
everybody. It seems to work for us. A real fix would be much harder,
I think. Certainly it would be for me.
We don't rely on OOM-killing for memory management (we tried to, but
it has drawbacks). But OOM kills can still happen, so we have to deal
with them. We can deal with multiple processes being killed, but not
with a hang. I might be tempted to say that this should be true for
everybody, but I can imagine systems that work by allowing only one
process to die, and perhaps the load on those systems is such that
they don't experience this deadlock often, or ever (even though I
would be nervous about it).
> Could you please try this on 3.6 since all the code you're quoting is from
> old kernels?
I will see if I can do it, but we're shipping 3.4 and I am not sure
about the status of our 3.6 tree. I will also visually inspect the
relevant 3.6 code and see if the possibility of deadlock is still
there.
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-28 17:32 Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-03 13:30 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
[not found] ` <CAA25o9SwO209DD6CUx-LzhMt9XU6niGJ-fBPmgwfcrUvf0BPWA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-10-12 23:30 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-15 14:44 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-15 18:54 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-16 6:18 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-16 17:36 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-19 17:49 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-22 23:53 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-23 0:40 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-23 6:03 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-29 18:26 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-29 19:00 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-29 22:36 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-29 22:52 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-29 23:23 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-29 23:34 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-30 0:18 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-30 0:45 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-30 5:41 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-30 19:12 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-30 20:30 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-30 22:32 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-31 18:42 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-30 22:37 ` Sonny Rao
2012-10-31 4:46 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-31 6:14 ` Luigi Semenzato [this message]
2012-10-31 6:28 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-31 18:45 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-31 0:57 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-31 1:06 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-31 1:27 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-31 3:49 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-31 7:24 ` Minchan Kim
2012-10-31 16:07 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-10-31 17:49 ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-10-31 18:54 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-31 21:40 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-11-01 2:11 ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01 4:38 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-01 5:18 ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01 2:43 ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01 4:48 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-01 5:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-01 8:28 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-01 15:57 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-11-01 15:58 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-11-01 21:48 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-01 17:50 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-11-01 21:50 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-01 21:58 ` [patch] mm, oom: allow exiting threads to have access to memory reserves David Rientjes
2012-11-01 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-01 23:05 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-01 23:06 ` Luigi Semenzato
2012-11-01 22:04 ` zram OOM behavior Luigi Semenzato
2012-11-01 22:25 ` David Rientjes
2012-11-02 6:39 Minchan Kim
2012-11-02 8:30 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-02 22:36 ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-05 14:46 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 0:25 ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-06 8:58 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 10:17 ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-09 9:50 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-12 13:32 ` Minchan Kim
2012-11-12 14:06 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-13 13:31 ` Minchan Kim
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