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From: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
To: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 mm-new 09/15] khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2025 10:14:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA1CXcDT19rV_08pVP7CLuUZiVHW_1rSOv2oMXUHyRxh5sGCcA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ffcf2c28-d0ae-4a45-8693-10fb4dff8479@lucifer.local>

On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 11:47 AM Lorenzo Stoakes
<lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2025 at 12:37:11PM -0600, Nico Pache wrote:
> > Add three new mTHP statistics to track collapse failures for different
> > orders when encountering swap PTEs, excessive none PTEs, and shared PTEs:
> >
> > - collapse_exceed_swap_pte: Increment when mTHP collapse fails due to swap
> >       PTEs
> >
> > - collapse_exceed_none_pte: Counts when mTHP collapse fails due to
> >       exceeding the none PTE threshold for the given order
> >
> > - collapse_exceed_shared_pte: Counts when mTHP collapse fails due to shared
> >       PTEs
> >
> > These statistics complement the existing THP_SCAN_EXCEED_* events by
> > providing per-order granularity for mTHP collapse attempts. The stats are
> > exposed via sysfs under
> > `/sys/kernel/mm/transparent_hugepage/hugepages-*/stats/` for each
> > supported hugepage size.
> >
> > As we currently dont support collapsing mTHPs that contain a swap or
> > shared entry, those statistics keep track of how often we are
> > encountering failed mTHP collapses due to these restrictions.
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst | 23 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/linux/huge_mm.h                    |  3 +++
> >  mm/huge_memory.c                           |  7 +++++++
> >  mm/khugepaged.c                            | 16 ++++++++++++---
> >  4 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> > index 13269a0074d4..7c71cda8aea1 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
> > @@ -709,6 +709,29 @@ nr_anon_partially_mapped
> >         an anonymous THP as "partially mapped" and count it here, even though it
> >         is not actually partially mapped anymore.
> >
> > +collapse_exceed_none_pte
> > +       The number of anonymous mTHP pte ranges where the number of none PTEs
>
> Ranges? Is the count per-mTHP folio? Or per PTE entry? Let's clarify.

I dont know the proper terminology. But what we have here is a range
of PTEs that is being considered for mTHP folio collapse; however, it
is still not a mTHP folio which is why I hesitated to call it that.

Given this counter is per mTHP size I think the proper way to say this would be:

The number of collapse attempts that failed due to exceeding the
max_ptes_none threshold.

>
> > +       exceeded the max_ptes_none threshold. For mTHP collapse, khugepaged
> > +       checks a PMD region and tracks which PTEs are present. It then tries
> > +       to collapse to the largest enabled mTHP size. The allowed number of empty
>
> Well and then tries to collapse to the next and etc. right? So maybe worth
> mentioning?
>
> > +       PTEs is the max_ptes_none threshold scaled by the collapse order. This
>
> I think this needs clarification, scaled how? Also obviously with the proposed
> new approach we will need to correct this to reflect the 511/0 situation.
>
> > +       counter records the number of times a collapse attempt was skipped for
> > +       this reason, and khugepaged moved on to try the next available mTHP size.
>
> OK you mention the moving on here, so for each attempted mTHP size which exeeds
> max_none_pte we increment this stat correct? Probably worth clarifying that.
>
> > +
> > +collapse_exceed_swap_pte
> > +       The number of anonymous mTHP pte ranges which contain at least one swap
> > +       PTE. Currently khugepaged does not support collapsing mTHP regions
> > +       that contain a swap PTE. This counter can be used to monitor the
> > +       number of khugepaged mTHP collapses that failed due to the presence
> > +       of a swap PTE.
>
> OK so as soon as we encounter a swap PTE we abort and this counts each instance
> of that?
>
> I guess worth spelling that out? Given we don't support it, surely the opening
> description should be 'The number of anonymous mTHP PTE ranges which were unable
> to be collapsed due to containing one or more swap PTEs'.
>
> > +
> > +collapse_exceed_shared_pte
> > +       The number of anonymous mTHP pte ranges which contain at least one shared
> > +       PTE. Currently khugepaged does not support collapsing mTHP pte ranges
> > +       that contain a shared PTE. This counter can be used to monitor the
> > +       number of khugepaged mTHP collapses that failed due to the presence
> > +       of a shared PTE.
>
> Same comments as above.
>
> > +
> >  As the system ages, allocating huge pages may be expensive as the
> >  system uses memory compaction to copy data around memory to free a
> >  huge page for use. There are some counters in ``/proc/vmstat`` to help
> > diff --git a/include/linux/huge_mm.h b/include/linux/huge_mm.h
> > index 3d29624c4f3f..4b2773235041 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/huge_mm.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/huge_mm.h
> > @@ -144,6 +144,9 @@ enum mthp_stat_item {
> >       MTHP_STAT_SPLIT_DEFERRED,
> >       MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON,
> >       MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON_PARTIALLY_MAPPED,
> > +     MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_SWAP,
> > +     MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_NONE,
> > +     MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_SHARED,
> >       __MTHP_STAT_COUNT
> >  };
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> > index 0063d1ba926e..7335b92969d6 100644
> > --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> > +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> > @@ -638,6 +638,10 @@ DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(split_failed, MTHP_STAT_SPLIT_FAILED);
> >  DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(split_deferred, MTHP_STAT_SPLIT_DEFERRED);
> >  DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(nr_anon, MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON);
> >  DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(nr_anon_partially_mapped, MTHP_STAT_NR_ANON_PARTIALLY_MAPPED);
> > +DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(collapse_exceed_swap_pte, MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_SWAP);
> > +DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(collapse_exceed_none_pte, MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_NONE);
> > +DEFINE_MTHP_STAT_ATTR(collapse_exceed_shared_pte, MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_SHARED);
> > +
> >
> >  static struct attribute *anon_stats_attrs[] = {
> >       &anon_fault_alloc_attr.attr,
> > @@ -654,6 +658,9 @@ static struct attribute *anon_stats_attrs[] = {
> >       &split_deferred_attr.attr,
> >       &nr_anon_attr.attr,
> >       &nr_anon_partially_mapped_attr.attr,
> > +     &collapse_exceed_swap_pte_attr.attr,
> > +     &collapse_exceed_none_pte_attr.attr,
> > +     &collapse_exceed_shared_pte_attr.attr,
> >       NULL,
> >  };
> >
> > diff --git a/mm/khugepaged.c b/mm/khugepaged.c
> > index d741af15e18c..053202141ea3 100644
> > --- a/mm/khugepaged.c
> > +++ b/mm/khugepaged.c
> > @@ -592,7 +592,9 @@ static int __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >                               continue;
> >                       } else {
> >                               result = SCAN_EXCEED_NONE_PTE;
> > -                             count_vm_event(THP_SCAN_EXCEED_NONE_PTE);
> > +                             if (order == HPAGE_PMD_ORDER)
> > +                                     count_vm_event(THP_SCAN_EXCEED_NONE_PTE);
> > +                             count_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_NONE);
> >                               goto out;
> >                       }
> >               }
> > @@ -622,10 +624,17 @@ static int __collapse_huge_page_isolate(struct vm_area_struct *vma,
> >                        * shared may cause a future higher order collapse on a
> >                        * rescan of the same range.
> >                        */
> > -                     if (order != HPAGE_PMD_ORDER || (cc->is_khugepaged &&
> > -                         shared > khugepaged_max_ptes_shared)) {
> > +                     if (order != HPAGE_PMD_ORDER) {
>

Thanks for the review! I'll go clean these up for the next version

> A little nit/idea in general for series - since we do this order !=
> HPAGE_PMD_ORDER check all over, maybe have a predict function like:
>
> static bool is_mthp_order(unsigned int order)
> {
>         return order != HPAGE_PMD_ORDER;
> }

sure!

>
> > +                             result = SCAN_EXCEED_SHARED_PTE;
> > +                             count_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_SHARED);
> > +                             goto out;
> > +                     }
> > +
> > +                     if (cc->is_khugepaged &&
> > +                         shared > khugepaged_max_ptes_shared) {
> >                               result = SCAN_EXCEED_SHARED_PTE;
> >                               count_vm_event(THP_SCAN_EXCEED_SHARED_PTE);
> > +                             count_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_SHARED);
>
> OK I _think_ I mentioned this in a previous revision so forgive me for being
> repetitious but we also count PMD orders here?
>
> But in the MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_NONE and MTP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_SWAP
> cases we don't? Why's that?

Hmm I could have sworn I fixed that... perhaps I reintroduced the
missing stat update when I had to rebase/undo the cleanup series by
Lance. I will fix this.


Cheers.
-- Nico
>
>
> >                               goto out;
> >                       }
> >               }
> > @@ -1073,6 +1082,7 @@ static int __collapse_huge_page_swapin(struct mm_struct *mm,
> >                * range.
> >                */
> >               if (order != HPAGE_PMD_ORDER) {
> > +                     count_mthp_stat(order, MTHP_STAT_COLLAPSE_EXCEED_SWAP);
> >                       pte_unmap(pte);
> >                       mmap_read_unlock(mm);
> >                       result = SCAN_EXCEED_SWAP_PTE;
> > --
> > 2.51.0
> >
>
> Thanks, Lorenzo
>



  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-07 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-22 18:37 [PATCH v12 mm-new 00/15] khugepaged: mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 01/15] khugepaged: rename hpage_collapse_* to collapse_* Nico Pache
2025-11-08  1:42   ` Wei Yang
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 02/15] introduce collapse_single_pmd to unify khugepaged and madvise_collapse Nico Pache
2025-10-27  9:00   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-27 15:44   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-08  1:44   ` Wei Yang
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 03/15] khugepaged: generalize hugepage_vma_revalidate for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-10-27  9:02   ` Lance Yang
2025-11-08  1:54   ` Wei Yang
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 04/15] khugepaged: generalize alloc_charge_folio() Nico Pache
2025-10-27  9:05   ` Lance Yang
2025-11-08  2:34   ` Wei Yang
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 05/15] khugepaged: generalize __collapse_huge_page_* for mTHP support Nico Pache
2025-10-27  9:17   ` Lance Yang
2025-10-27 16:00   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-10 13:20     ` Nico Pache
2025-11-08  3:01   ` Wei Yang
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 06/15] khugepaged: introduce collapse_max_ptes_none helper function Nico Pache
2025-10-27 17:53   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 10:09     ` Baolin Wang
2025-10-28 13:57       ` Nico Pache
2025-10-28 17:07       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 17:56         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-28 18:09           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 18:17             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-28 18:41               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 15:04                 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-29 18:41                   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 21:10                     ` Nico Pache
2025-10-30 18:03                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 20:45                   ` Nico Pache
2025-10-28 13:36     ` Nico Pache
2025-10-28 14:15       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-28 17:29         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 17:36           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 18:08           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-28 18:59             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 19:08               ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29  2:09               ` Baolin Wang
2025-10-29  2:49                 ` Nico Pache
2025-10-29 18:55                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 21:14                   ` Nico Pache
2025-10-30  1:15                     ` Baolin Wang
2025-10-29  2:47               ` Nico Pache
2025-10-29 18:58                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-29 21:23                   ` Nico Pache
2025-10-30 10:15                     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-31 11:12               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-28 16:57       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-28 17:49         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-28 17:59           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 07/15] khugepaged: generalize collapse_huge_page for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2025-10-27  3:25   ` Baolin Wang
2025-11-06 18:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-07  3:09     ` Dev Jain
2025-11-07  9:18       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-07 19:33     ` Nico Pache
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 08/15] khugepaged: skip collapsing mTHP to smaller orders Nico Pache
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 09/15] khugepaged: add per-order mTHP collapse failure statistics Nico Pache
2025-11-06 18:45   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-07 17:14     ` Nico Pache [this message]
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 10/15] khugepaged: improve tracepoints for mTHP orders Nico Pache
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 11/15] khugepaged: introduce collapse_allowable_orders helper function Nico Pache
2025-11-06 18:49   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-07 18:01     ` Nico Pache
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 12/15] khugepaged: Introduce mTHP collapse support Nico Pache
2025-10-27  6:28   ` Baolin Wang
2025-11-09  2:08   ` Wei Yang
2025-11-11 21:56     ` Nico Pache
2025-11-19 11:53   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-19 12:08     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-20 22:32     ` Nico Pache
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 13/15] khugepaged: avoid unnecessary mTHP collapse attempts Nico Pache
2025-11-09  2:40   ` Wei Yang
2025-11-17 18:16     ` Nico Pache
2025-11-18  2:00       ` Wei Yang
2025-11-19 12:05   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-26 23:16     ` Nico Pache
2025-11-26 23:29     ` Nico Pache
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 14/15] khugepaged: run khugepaged for all orders Nico Pache
2025-11-19 12:13   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-11-20  6:37     ` Baolin Wang
2025-10-22 18:37 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 15/15] Documentation: mm: update the admin guide for mTHP collapse Nico Pache
2025-10-22 19:52   ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-10-22 20:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-23  8:00       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-10-23  8:44         ` Pedro Falcato
2025-10-24 13:54           ` Zach O'Keefe
2025-10-23 23:41       ` Christoph Lameter (Ampere)
2025-10-22 20:13 ` [PATCH v12 mm-new 00/15] khugepaged: mTHP support Andrew Morton

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