From: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
To: Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 00/21] mm: thp: lazy PTE page table allocation at PMD split
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2026 14:01:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA1CXcAYt3OfW_uBTYZgr-dBhg99x=5pUs5uvqtpg+PNJ1KxGQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260226113233.3987674-1-usama.arif@linux.dev>
On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 4:33 AM Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev> wrote:
>
> When the kernel creates a PMD-level THP mapping for anonymous pages, it
> pre-allocates a PTE page table via pgtable_trans_huge_deposit(). This
> page table sits unused in a deposit list for the lifetime of the THP
> mapping, only to be withdrawn when the PMD is split or zapped. Every
> anonymous THP therefore wastes 4KB of memory unconditionally. On large
> servers where hundreds of gigabytes of memory are mapped as THPs, this
> adds up: roughly 200MB wasted per 100GB of THP memory. This memory
> could otherwise satisfy other allocations, including the very PTE page
> table allocations needed when splits eventually occur.
>
> This series removes the pre-deposit and allocates the PTE page table
> lazily — only when a PMD split actually happens. Since a large number
> of THPs are never split (they are zapped wholesale when processes exit or
> munmap the full range), the allocation is avoided entirely in the common
> case.
>
> The pre-deposit pattern exists because split_huge_pmd was designed as an
> operation that must never fail: if the kernel decides to split, it needs
> a PTE page table, so one is deposited in advance. But "must never fail"
> is an unnecessarily strong requirement. A PMD split is typically triggered
> by a partial operation on a sub-PMD range — partial munmap, partial
> mprotect, partial mremap and so on.
> Most of these operations already have well-defined error handling for
> allocation failures (e.g., -ENOMEM, VM_FAULT_OOM). Allowing split to
> fail and propagating the error through these existing paths is the natural
> thing to do. Furthermore, split failing requires an order-0 allocation for
> a page table to fail, which is extremely unlikely.
>
> Designing functions like split_huge_pmd as operations that cannot fail
> has a subtle but real cost to code quality. It forces a pre-allocation
> pattern - every THP creation path must deposit a page table, and every
> split or zap path must withdraw one, creating a hidden coupling between
> widely separated code paths.
>
> This also serves as a code cleanup. On every architecture except powerpc
> with hash MMU, the deposit/withdraw machinery becomes dead code. The
> series removes the generic implementations in pgtable-generic.c and the
> s390/sparc overrides, replacing them with no-op stubs guarded by
> arch_needs_pgtable_deposit(), which evaluates to false at compile time
> on all non-powerpc architectures.
Hi Usama,
Thanks for tackling this, it seems like an interesting problem. Im
trying to get more into reviewing, so bare with me I may have some
stupid comments or questions. Where I can really help out is with
testing. I will build this for all RH-supported architectures and run
some automated test suites and performance metrics. I'll report back
if I spot anything.
Cheers!
-- Nico
>
> The series is structured as follows:
>
> Patches 1-2: Error infrastructure — make split functions return int
> and propagate errors from vma_adjust_trans_huge()
> through __split_vma, vma_shrink, and commit_merge.
>
> Patches 3-12: Handle split failure at every call site — copy_huge_pmd,
> do_huge_pmd_wp_page, zap_pmd_range, wp_huge_pmd,
> change_pmd_range (mprotect), follow_pmd_mask (GUP),
> walk_pmd_range (pagewalk), move_page_tables (mremap),
> move_pages (userfaultfd), and device migration.
> The code will become affective in Patch 14 when split
> functions start returning -ENOMEM.
>
> Patch 13: Add __must_check to __split_huge_pmd(), split_huge_pmd()
> and split_huge_pmd_address() so the compiler warns on
> unchecked return values.
>
> Patch 14: The actual change — allocate PTE page tables lazily at
> split time instead of pre-depositing at THP creation.
> This is when split functions will actually start returning
> -ENOMEM.
>
> Patch 15: Remove the now-dead deposit/withdraw code on
> non-powerpc architectures.
>
> Patch 16: Add THP_SPLIT_PMD_FAILED vmstat counter for monitoring
> split failures.
>
> Patches 17-21: Selftests covering partial munmap, mprotect, mlock,
> mremap, and MADV_DONTNEED on THPs to exercise the
> split paths.
>
> The error handling patches are placed before the lazy allocation patch so
> that every call site is already prepared to handle split failures before
> the failure mode is introduced. This makes each patch independently safe
> to apply and bisect through.
>
> The patches were tested with CONFIG_DEBUG_ATOMIC_SLEEP and CONFIG_DEBUG_VM
> enabled. The test results are below:
>
> TAP version 13
> 1..5
> # Starting 5 tests from 1 test cases.
> # RUN thp_pmd_split.partial_munmap ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_munmap:thp_split_pmd: 0 -> 1
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_munmap:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> # OK thp_pmd_split.partial_munmap
> ok 1 thp_pmd_split.partial_munmap
> # RUN thp_pmd_split.partial_mprotect ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_mprotect:thp_split_pmd: 1 -> 2
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_mprotect:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> # OK thp_pmd_split.partial_mprotect
> ok 2 thp_pmd_split.partial_mprotect
> # RUN thp_pmd_split.partial_mlock ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_mlock:thp_split_pmd: 2 -> 3
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_mlock:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> # OK thp_pmd_split.partial_mlock
> ok 3 thp_pmd_split.partial_mlock
> # RUN thp_pmd_split.partial_mremap ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_mremap:thp_split_pmd: 3 -> 4
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_mremap:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> # OK thp_pmd_split.partial_mremap
> ok 4 thp_pmd_split.partial_mremap
> # RUN thp_pmd_split.partial_madv_dontneed ...
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:60:partial_madv_dontneed:thp_split_pmd: 4 -> 5
> # thp_pmd_split_test.c:62:partial_madv_dontneed:thp_split_pmd_failed: 0 -> 0
> # OK thp_pmd_split.partial_madv_dontneed
> ok 5 thp_pmd_split.partial_madv_dontneed
> # PASSED: 5 / 5 tests passed.
> # Totals: pass:5 fail:0 xfail:0 xpass:0 skip:0 error:0
>
> The patches are based off of 957a3fab8811b455420128ea5f41c51fd23eb6c7 from
> mm-unstable as of 25 Feb (7.0.0-rc1).
>
>
> RFC v1 -> v2: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260211125507.4175026-1-usama.arif@linux.dev/
> - Change counter name to THP_SPLIT_PMD_FAILED (David)
> - remove pgtable_trans_huge_{deposit/withdraw} when not needed and
> make them arch specific (David)
> - make split functions return error code and have callers handle them
> (David and Kiryl)
> - Add test cases for splitting
>
> Usama Arif (21):
> mm: thp: make split_huge_pmd functions return int for error
> propagation
> mm: thp: propagate split failure from vma_adjust_trans_huge()
> mm: thp: handle split failure in copy_huge_pmd()
> mm: thp: handle split failure in do_huge_pmd_wp_page()
> mm: thp: handle split failure in zap_pmd_range()
> mm: thp: handle split failure in wp_huge_pmd()
> mm: thp: retry on split failure in change_pmd_range()
> mm: thp: handle split failure in follow_pmd_mask()
> mm: handle walk_page_range() failure from THP split
> mm: thp: handle split failure in mremap move_page_tables()
> mm: thp: handle split failure in userfaultfd move_pages()
> mm: thp: handle split failure in device migration
> mm: huge_mm: Make sure all split_huge_pmd calls are checked
> mm: thp: allocate PTE page tables lazily at split time
> mm: thp: remove pgtable_trans_huge_{deposit/withdraw} when not needed
> mm: thp: add THP_SPLIT_PMD_FAILED counter
> selftests/mm: add THP PMD split test infrastructure
> selftests/mm: add partial_mprotect test for change_pmd_range
> selftests/mm: add partial_mlock test
> selftests/mm: add partial_mremap test for move_page_tables
> selftests/mm: add madv_dontneed_partial test
>
> arch/powerpc/include/asm/book3s/64/pgtable.h | 12 +-
> arch/s390/include/asm/pgtable.h | 6 -
> arch/s390/mm/pgtable.c | 41 ---
> arch/sparc/include/asm/pgtable_64.h | 6 -
> arch/sparc/mm/tlb.c | 36 ---
> include/linux/huge_mm.h | 51 +--
> include/linux/pgtable.h | 16 +-
> include/linux/vm_event_item.h | 1 +
> mm/debug_vm_pgtable.c | 4 +-
> mm/gup.c | 10 +-
> mm/huge_memory.c | 208 +++++++++----
> mm/khugepaged.c | 7 +-
> mm/memory.c | 26 +-
> mm/migrate_device.c | 33 +-
> mm/mprotect.c | 11 +-
> mm/mremap.c | 8 +-
> mm/pagewalk.c | 8 +-
> mm/pgtable-generic.c | 32 --
> mm/rmap.c | 42 ++-
> mm/userfaultfd.c | 8 +-
> mm/vma.c | 37 ++-
> mm/vmstat.c | 1 +
> tools/testing/selftests/mm/Makefile | 1 +
> .../testing/selftests/mm/thp_pmd_split_test.c | 290 ++++++++++++++++++
> tools/testing/vma/include/stubs.h | 9 +-
> 25 files changed, 645 insertions(+), 259 deletions(-)
> create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/mm/thp_pmd_split_test.c
>
> --
> 2.47.3
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-26 21:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-26 11:23 Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 01/21] mm: thp: make split_huge_pmd functions return int for error propagation Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 02/21] mm: thp: propagate split failure from vma_adjust_trans_huge() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 03/21] mm: thp: handle split failure in copy_huge_pmd() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 04/21] mm: thp: handle split failure in do_huge_pmd_wp_page() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 05/21] mm: thp: handle split failure in zap_pmd_range() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 06/21] mm: thp: handle split failure in wp_huge_pmd() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 07/21] mm: thp: retry on split failure in change_pmd_range() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 08/21] mm: thp: handle split failure in follow_pmd_mask() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 09/21] mm: handle walk_page_range() failure from THP split Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 10/21] mm: thp: handle split failure in mremap move_page_tables() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 11/21] mm: thp: handle split failure in userfaultfd move_pages() Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 12/21] mm: thp: handle split failure in device migration Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 13/21] mm: huge_mm: Make sure all split_huge_pmd calls are checked Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 14/21] mm: thp: allocate PTE page tables lazily at split time Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 15/21] mm: thp: remove pgtable_trans_huge_{deposit/withdraw} when not needed Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 16/21] mm: thp: add THP_SPLIT_PMD_FAILED counter Usama Arif
2026-02-26 14:22 ` Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 17/21] selftests/mm: add THP PMD split test infrastructure Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 18/21] selftests/mm: add partial_mprotect test for change_pmd_range Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 19/21] selftests/mm: add partial_mlock test Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 20/21] selftests/mm: add partial_mremap test for move_page_tables Usama Arif
2026-02-26 11:23 ` [RFC v2 21/21] selftests/mm: add madv_dontneed_partial test Usama Arif
2026-02-26 21:01 ` Nico Pache [this message]
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