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From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  bp@alien8.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	 zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com, nadav.amit@gmail.com,
	thomas.lendacky@amd.com,  kernel-team@meta.com,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,  jannh@google.com,
	mhklinux@outlook.com, andrew.cooper3@citrix.com,
	 Manali Shukla <Manali.Shukla@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 14:22:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+i-1C2G9Db1X+qa3FrYSDFZmQJoms=VBpBpVPyQbCX17djYow@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b067a9fc-ff5f-4baa-a1ff-3fa749ae4d44@intel.com>

On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 at 20:53, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com> wrote:
> > +     /*
> > +      * TLB consistency for global ASIDs is maintained with broadcast TLB
> > +      * flushing. The TLB is never outdated, and does not need flushing.
> > +      */
>
> This is another case where I think using the word "broadcast" is not
> helping.
>
> Here's the problem: INVLPGB is a "INVLPG" that's broadcast. So the name
> INVLPGB is fine. INVLPGB is *a* way to broadcast INVLPG which is *a*
> kind of TLB invalidation.
>
> But, to me "broadcast TLB flushing" is a broad term. In arguably
> includes INVLPGB and normal IPI-based flushing. Just like the function
> naming in the earlier patch, I think we need a better term here.

If we wanna refer to invlpgb-type things without saying invlpgb, and
as you pointed out "broadcast" is too general, I think we just need
the terminology to refer to the fact it's a special "hardware"
feature.

So "hardware-synchronized" or something like that. The former would
abbrev to hwsync in identifiers, without any loss of clarity.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-17 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-13 16:13 [PATCH v11 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Rik van Riel
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v11 01/12] x86/mm: make MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE unconditional Rik van Riel
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v11 02/12] x86/mm: remove pv_ops.mmu.tlb_remove_table call Rik van Riel
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v11 03/12] x86/mm: consolidate full flush threshold decision Rik van Riel
2025-02-14 18:07   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-19 11:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v11 04/12] x86/mm: get INVLPGB count max from CPUID Rik van Riel
2025-02-14 18:16   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-19 11:56   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 17:52     ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-19 18:23       ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 19:26       ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v11 05/12] x86/mm: add INVLPGB support code Rik van Riel
2025-02-14 18:22   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-18 17:23     ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-19 12:04   ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-19 17:42     ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-19 19:01       ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-19 19:15         ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-20  2:49           ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-20 10:23             ` Borislav Petkov
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v11 06/12] x86/mm: use INVLPGB for kernel TLB flushes Rik van Riel
2025-02-14 18:35   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-14 19:40     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-14 19:55       ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-15  1:25         ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-15  2:08           ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-18 18:00             ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-18 22:27               ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-19  1:46                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v11 07/12] x86/mm: use INVLPGB in flush_tlb_all Rik van Riel
2025-02-14 18:57   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-13 16:13 ` [PATCH v11 08/12] x86/mm: use broadcast TLB flushing for page reclaim TLB flushing Rik van Riel
2025-02-14 18:51   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-18 19:31     ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-18 19:46       ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-18 20:06         ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v11 09/12] x86/mm: enable broadcast TLB invalidation for multi-threaded processes Rik van Riel
2025-02-14 19:53   ` Dave Hansen
2025-02-17 13:22     ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2025-02-20 15:25     ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v11 10/12] x86/mm: do targeted broadcast flushing from tlbbatch code Rik van Riel
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v11 11/12] x86/mm: enable AMD translation cache extensions Rik van Riel
2025-02-13 16:14 ` [PATCH v11 12/12] x86/mm: only invalidate final translations with INVLPGB Rik van Riel
2025-02-13 18:31 ` [PATCH v11 00/12] AMD broadcast TLB invalidation Brendan Jackman
2025-02-13 18:38   ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-13 20:02   ` Rik van Riel
2025-02-14  9:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-02-14  9:54       ` Brendan Jackman

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