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From: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>
To: Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 01/14] kasan: sw_tags: Use arithmetic shift for shadow computation
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 20:44:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+fCnZdUFO0+G9HHy4oaQfEx8sm3D_ZfxdkH3y2ZojjYqTN74Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <qnxlqbc4cs7izjilisbjlrup4zyntjyucvfa4s6eegn72wfbkd@czthvwkdvo3v>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 5:43 PM Maciej Wieczor-Retman
<maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com> wrote:
>
> >What value can bit 63 and take for _valid kernel_ pointers (on which
> >KASAN is intended to operate)? If it is always 1, we could arguably
> >change the compiler to do | 0xFE for CompileKernel. Which would leave
> >us with only one region to check: [0xfe00000000000000,
> >0xffffffffffffffff]. But I don't know whether changing the compiler
> >makes sense: it technically does as instructed by the LAM spec.
> >(Vitaly, any thoughts? For context: we are discussing how to check
> >whether a pointer can be a result of a memory-to-shadow mapping
> >applied to a potentially invalid pointer in kernel HWASAN.)
>
> With LAM, valid pointers need to have bits 63 and 56 equal for 5 level paging
> and bits 63 and 47 equal for 4 level paging. Both set for kernel addresses and
> both clear for user addresses.

Ah, OK. Then I guess we could even change to compiler to do | 0xFF,
same as arm. But I don't know if this makes sense.

> >With the way the compiler works right now, for the perfectly precise
> >check, I think we need to check 2 ranges: [0xfe00000000000000,
> >0xffffffffffffffff] for when bit 63 is set (of a potentially-invalid
> >pointer to which memory-to-shadow mapping is to be applied) and
> >[0x7e00000000000000, 0x7fffffffffffffff] for when bit 63 is reset. Bit
> >56 ranges through [0, 1] in both cases.
> >
> >However, in these patches, you use only bits [60:57]. The compiler is
> >not aware of this, so it still sets bits [62:57], and we end up with
> >the same two ranges. But in the KASAN code, you only set bits [60:57],
> >and thus we can end up with 8 potential ranges (2 possible values for
> >each of the top 3 bits), which gets complicated. So checking only one
> >range that covers all of them seems to be reasonable for simplicity
> >even though not entirely precise. And yes, [0x1e00000000000000,
> >0xffffffffffffffff] looks like the what we need.
>
> Aren't the 2 ranges you mentioned in the previous paragraph still valid, no
> matter what bits the __tag_set() function uses? I mean bits 62:57 are still
> reset by the compiler so bits 62:61 still won't matter. For example addresses
> 0x1e00000000000000 and 0x3e00000000000000 will resolve to the same thing after
> the compiler is done with them right?

Ah, yes, you're right, it's the same 2 ranges.

I was thinking about the outline instrumentation mode, where the
shadow address would be calculated based on resetting only bits
[60:57]. But then there we have a addr_has_metadata() check in
kasan_check_range(), so KASAN should not try to deference a bad shadow
address and thus should not reach kasan_non_canonical_hook() anyway.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-26 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-18  8:15 [PATCH v2 00/14] kasan: x86: arm64: KASAN tag-based mode for x86 Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] kasan: sw_tags: Use arithmetic shift for shadow computation Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:29   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 13:11     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-22 15:06       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 17:20         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 19:12           ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 20:12             ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 21:38               ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 16:42                 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-26 19:44                   ` Andrey Konovalov [this message]
2025-02-27 12:27                     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-28 16:12                       ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-01  0:21                         ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-04 14:06                           ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-07  1:10                             ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-13 14:56                               ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-18 15:31                                 ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 21:37           ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-27 12:33             ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-01  0:22               ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-04 12:29                 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-07  1:10                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-14 15:57                     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-18 15:32                       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] kasan: sw_tags: Check kasan_flag_enabled at runtime Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 14:35     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] kasan: sw_tags: Support outline stack tag generation Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] kasan: sw_tags: Support tag widths less than 8 bits Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] kasan: arm64: x86: Make special tags arch specific Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] x86: Add arch specific kasan functions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21  8:40     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] x86: Reset tag for virtual to physical address conversions Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] x86: Physical address comparisons in fill_p*d/pte Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] mm: Pcpu chunk address tag reset Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-20 17:39   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-03-20 17:47     ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-21 10:40     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] x86: KASAN raw shadow memory PTE init Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] x86: LAM initialization Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] x86: Minimal SLAB alignment Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:30   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21  7:24     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] x86: runtime_const used for KASAN_SHADOW_END Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:31   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 15:10     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-21 15:27       ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-22 15:08         ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-22 15:07       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 17:15         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-25 21:37           ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 11:52             ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-26 15:24               ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-26 17:03                 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-21 19:20                 ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-21 20:16                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-03-24 10:43                     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-24 10:50                       ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-03-24 21:58                         ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-18  8:15 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] x86: Make software tag-based kasan available Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-19 23:31   ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-20 16:32     ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-21 14:44     ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-22 15:06       ` Andrey Konovalov
2025-02-25 15:39         ` Maciej Wieczor-Retman
2025-02-20  2:49   ` kernel test robot

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