From: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/7] KVM: guest_memfd: Track folio sharing within a struct kvm_gmem_private
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 07:43:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+EHjTzpd4BW3RfCRK=S9oNnjAYj_1k2xwxku+msgVwVLwd4Fg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z-6gZGSbOvfrTPjV@google.com>
Hi Sean,
On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 at 15:51, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2025, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 at 00:56, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 02, 2025, Ackerley Tng wrote:
> > > > > diff --git a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> > > > > index ac6b8853699d..cde16ed3b230 100644
> > > > > --- a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> > > > > +++ b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> > > > > @@ -17,6 +17,18 @@ struct kvm_gmem {
> > > > > struct list_head entry;
> > > > > };
> > > > >
> > > > > +struct kvm_gmem_inode_private {
> > > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_KVM_GMEM_SHARED_MEM
> > > > > + struct xarray shared_offsets;
> > > > > + rwlock_t offsets_lock;
> > > >
> > > > This lock doesn't work, either that or this lock can't be held while
> > > > faulting, because holding this lock means we can't sleep, and we need to
> > > > sleep to allocate.
> > >
> > > rwlock_t is a variant of a spinlock, which can't be held when sleeping.
> > >
> > > What exactly does offsets_lock protect, and what are the rules for holding it?
> > > At a glance, it's flawed. Something needs to prevent KVM from installing a mapping
> > > for a private gfn that is being converted to shared. KVM doesn't hold references
> > > to PFNs while they're mapped into the guest, and kvm_gmem_get_pfn() doesn't check
> > > shared_offsets let alone take offsets_lock.
> >
> > You're right about the rwlock_t. The goal of the offsets_lock is to
> > protect the shared offsets -- i.e., it's just meant to protect the
> > SHARED/PRIVATE status of a folio, not more, hence why it's not checked
> > in kvm_gmem_get_pfn(). It used to be protected by the
> > filemap_invalidate_lock, but the problem is that it would be called
> > from an interrupt context.
> >
> > However, this is wrong, as you've pointed out. The purpose of locking
> > is to ensure that no two conversions of the same folio happen at the
> > same time. An alternative I had written up is to rely on having
> > exclusive access to the folio to ensure that, since this is tied to
> > the folio. That could be either by acquiring the folio lock, or
> > ensuring that the folio doesn't have any outstanding references,
> > indicating that we have exclusive access to it. This would avoid the
> > whole locking issue.
> >
> > > ... Something needs to prevent KVM from installing a mapping
> > > for a private gfn that is being converted to shared. ...
> >
> > > guest_memfd currently handles races between kvm_gmem_fault() and PUNCH_HOLE via
> > > kvm_gmem_invalidate_{begin,end}(). I don't see any equivalent functionality in
> > > the shared/private conversion code.
> >
> > For in-place sharing, KVM can install a mapping for a SHARED gfn. What
> > it cannot do is install a mapping for a transient (i.e., NONE) gfn. We
> > don't rely on kvm_gmem_get_pfn() for that, but on the individual KVM
> > mmu fault handlers, but that said...
>
> Consumption of shared/private physical pages _must_ be enforced by guest_memfd.
> The private vs. shared state in the MMU handlers is that VM's view of the world
> and desired state. The guest_memfd inode is the single source of true for the
> state of the _physical_ page.
>
> E.g. on TDX, if KVM installs a private SPTE for a PFN that is in actuality shared,
> there will be machine checks and the host will likely crash.
I agree. As a plus, I've made that change and it actually simplifies the logic .
> > > I would much, much prefer one large series that shows the full picture than a
> > > mish mash of partial series that I can't actually review, even if the big series
> > > is 100+ patches (hopefully not).
> >
> > Dropping the RFC from the second series was not intentional, the first
> > series is the one where I intended to drop the RFC. I apologize for
> > that. Especially since I obviously don't know how to handle modules
> > and wanted some input on how to do that :)
>
> In this case, the rules for modules are pretty simple. Code in mm/ can't call
> into KVM. Either avoid callbacks entirely, or implement via a layer of
> indirection, e.g. function pointer or ops table, so that KVM can provide its
> implementation at runtime.
Ack.
Thanks again!
/fuad
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-04 6:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-28 15:31 [PATCH v7 0/7] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and arm64 support Fuad Tabba
2025-03-28 15:31 ` [PATCH v7 1/7] KVM: guest_memfd: Make guest mem use guest mem inodes instead of anonymous inodes Fuad Tabba
2025-04-08 11:53 ` Shivank Garg
2025-03-28 15:31 ` [PATCH v7 2/7] KVM: guest_memfd: Introduce kvm_gmem_get_pfn_locked(), which retains the folio lock Fuad Tabba
2025-03-28 15:31 ` [PATCH v7 3/7] KVM: guest_memfd: Track folio sharing within a struct kvm_gmem_private Fuad Tabba
2025-04-02 22:25 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-02 23:56 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-03 8:58 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-03 14:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 6:43 ` Fuad Tabba [this message]
2025-03-28 15:31 ` [PATCH v7 4/7] KVM: guest_memfd: Folio sharing states and functions that manage their transition Fuad Tabba
2025-04-02 23:48 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-03 8:58 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-03 0:19 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-03 9:11 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-03 14:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 6:44 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-03-28 15:31 ` [PATCH v7 5/7] KVM: guest_memfd: Restore folio state after final folio_put() Fuad Tabba
2025-04-05 16:23 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-28 15:31 ` [PATCH v7 6/7] KVM: guest_memfd: Handle invalidation of shared memory Fuad Tabba
2025-03-28 15:31 ` [PATCH v7 7/7] KVM: guest_memfd: Add a guest_memfd() flag to initialize it as shared Fuad Tabba
2025-04-02 22:47 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-04 7:39 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-02 23:03 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-04-03 11:32 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-04-04 18:05 ` [PATCH v7 0/7] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and arm64 support Liam R. Howlett
2025-04-04 20:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-04-04 21:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-05 2:45 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-04-07 6:28 ` Fuad Tabba
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