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From: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/9] KVM: Mapping of guest_memfd at the host and a software protected VM type
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 17:16:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+EHjTyGgs_Sp0b6OqeS7oVskhVG+S1cHhVRb5Z6mPAwGwmqFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <03bbcd00-bd5e-47de-8b20-31636e361f52@redhat.com>

Hi David,

On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 at 15:41, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 22.01.25 16:35, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 22.01.25 16:27, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> >> The purpose of this series is to serve as a potential base for
> >> restricted mmap() support for guest_memfd [1]. It would allow
> >> experimentation with what that support would be like, in the safe
> >> environment of a new VM type used for testing.
> >>
> >> This series adds a new VM type for arm64,
> >> KVM_VM_TYPE_ARM_SW_PROTECTED, analogous to the x86
> >> KVM_X86_SW_PROTECTED_VM. This type is to serve as a development
> >> and testing vehicle for Confidential (CoCo) VMs.
> >>
> >> Similar to the x86 type, this is currently only for development
> >> and testing. It's not meant to be used for "real" VMs, and
> >> especially not in production. The behavior and effective ABI for
> >> software-protected VMs is unstable.
> >>
> >> This series enables mmap() support for guest_memfd specifically
> >> for the new software-protected VM type, only when explicitly
> >> enabled in the config.
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > IIUC, in this series, there is no "private" vs "shared" distinction,
> > right? So all pages are mappable, and "conversion" does not exist?

You're right. This is a simplified version of my series that allows
mmaping of the new KVM_VM_TYPE_ARM_SW_PROTECTED vms to use for
experimentation.

Cheers,
/fuad

>
> Ah, I spot:
>
> +#define kvm_arch_private_mem_inplace(kvm)              \
> +       (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM_MAPPABLE) &&        \
> +        ((kvm)->arch.vm_type & KVM_VM_TYPE_ARM_SW_PROTECTED))
>
> Which makes me wonder, why don't we need the same way of making sure all
> references/mappings are gone (+ new page type) when doing the shared ->
> private conversion? Or is this somewhere in here where I didn't spot it yet?

This is new to this series. The idea, based on a request from Patrick
Roy, was to have a VM in arm64 we could use to experiment with. Since
it allows the unconditional mmaping, it's only useful for experiments
or for non-confidential VMs that want to use guest_memfd.

This series isn't meant to replace the other one, more to supplement
it and facilitate experimentation while that's going.

Cheers,
/fuad

> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-22 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-22 15:27 Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/9] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to mmap guest_memfd() pages Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 22:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23  9:44     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-23 10:27       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23 11:02         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/9] KVM: guest_memfd: Add guest_memfd support to kvm_(read|/write)_guest_page() Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 22:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23  9:48     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-23 11:39       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23 11:57         ` Patrick Roy
2025-01-23 12:28           ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-23 13:57             ` Patrick Roy
2025-01-23 14:21               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23 14:25                 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-23 14:18           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23 15:22             ` Patrick Roy
2025-01-24 14:44               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23 12:16         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-23 14:15           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/9] KVM: guest_memfd: Add KVM capability to check if guest_memfd is host mappable Fuad Tabba
2025-01-23 11:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23 11:46     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/9] KVM: arm64: Skip VMA checks for slots without userspace address Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 5/9] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() calculation of force_pte Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 6/9] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 7/9] KVM: arm64: Introduce KVM_VM_TYPE_ARM_SW_PROTECTED machine type Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 8/9] KVM: guest_memfd: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mapping is allowed Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 9/9] KVM: arm64: Enable mapping guest_memfd in arm64 Fuad Tabba
2025-01-22 15:35 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/9] KVM: Mapping of guest_memfd at the host and a software protected VM type David Hildenbrand
2025-01-22 15:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-22 17:16     ` Fuad Tabba [this message]
2025-01-22 21:42       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-01-23  9:09         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-01-23  9:14           ` David Hildenbrand

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