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From: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 09/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle guest page faults for guest_memfd with shared memory
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 11:24:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+EHjTy1K_fLSLB9H9wBvnRXoijdY2LTuPTebW_C-pAzaNEu3g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5e6abbf-76a9-4263-892f-3085b148b209@redhat.com>

On Thu, 22 May 2025 at 09:15, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 22.05.25 09:46, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > On Thu, 22 May 2025 at 08:16, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> + * shared (i.e., non-CoCo VMs).
> >>>>> + */
> >>>>>     static inline bool kvm_mem_is_private(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn)
> >>>>>     {
> >>>>> -   return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM) &&
> >>>>> -          kvm_get_memory_attributes(kvm, gfn) & KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE;
> >>>>> +   struct kvm_memory_slot *slot;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +   if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM))
> >>>>> +           return false;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +   slot = gfn_to_memslot(kvm, gfn);
> >>>>> +   if (kvm_slot_has_gmem(slot) && kvm_gmem_memslot_supports_shared(slot)) {
> >>>>> +           /*
> >>>>> +            * For now, memslots only support in-place shared memory if the
> >>>>> +            * host is allowed to mmap memory (i.e., non-Coco VMs).
> >>>>> +            */
> >>>>
> >>>> Not accurate: there is no in-place conversion support in this series,
> >>>> because there is no such itnerface. So the reason is that all memory is
> >>>> shared for there VM types?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> True that there's no in-place conversion yet.
> >>>
> >>> In this patch series, guest_memfd memslots support shared memory only
> >>> for specific VM types (on x86, that would be KVM_X86_DEFAULT_VM and
> >>> KVM_X86_SW_PROTECTED_VMs).
> >>>
> >>> How about this wording:
> >>>
> >>> Without conversion support, if the guest_memfd memslot supports shared
> >>> memory, all memory must be used as not private (implicitly shared).
> >>>
> >>
> >> LGTM
> >>
> >>>>> +           return false;
> >>>>> +   }
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +   return kvm_get_memory_attributes(kvm, gfn) & KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE;
> >>>>>     }
> >>>>>     #else
> >>>>>     static inline bool kvm_mem_is_private(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn)
> >>>>> diff --git a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> >>>>> index 2f499021df66..fe0245335c96 100644
> >>>>> --- a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> >>>>> +++ b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> >>>>> @@ -388,6 +388,23 @@ static int kvm_gmem_mmap(struct file *file, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>      return 0;
> >>>>>     }
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +bool kvm_gmem_memslot_supports_shared(const struct kvm_memory_slot *slot)
> >>>>> +{
> >>>>> +   struct file *file;
> >>>>> +   bool ret;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +   file = kvm_gmem_get_file((struct kvm_memory_slot *)slot);
> >>>>> +   if (!file)
> >>>>> +           return false;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +   ret = kvm_gmem_supports_shared(file_inode(file));
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +   fput(file);
> >>>>> +   return ret;
> >>>>
> >>>> Would it make sense to cache that information in the memslot, to avoid
> >>>> the get/put?
> >>>>
> >>>> We could simply cache when creating the memslot I guess.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> When I wrote it I was assuming that to ensure correctness we should
> >>> check with guest memfd, like what if someone closed the gmem file in the
> >>> middle of the fault path?
> >>>
> >>> But I guess after the discussion at the last call, since the faulting
> >>> process is long and racy, if this check passed and we go to guest memfd
> >>> and the file was closed, it would just fail so I guess caching is fine.
> >>
> >> Yes, that would be my assumption. I mean, we also msut make sure that if
> >> the user does something stupid like that, that we won't trigger other
> >> undesired code paths (like, suddenly the guest_memfd being !shared).
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> As an alternative ... could we simple get/put when managing the memslot?
> >>>
> >>> What does a simple get/put mean here?
> >>
> >> s/simple/simply/
> >>
> >> So when we create the memslot, we'd perform the get, and when we destroy
> >> the memslot, we'd do the put.
> >>
> >> Just an idea.
> >
> > I'm not sure we can do that. The comment in kvm_gmem_bind() on
> > dropping the reference to the file explains why:
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.14.7/source/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c#L526
>
> Right, although it is rather suboptimal; we have to constantly get/put
> the file, even in kvm_gmem_get_pfn() right now.
>
> Repeatedly two atomics and a bunch of checks ... for something a sane
> use case should never trigger.
>
> Anyhow, that's probably something to optimize also for
> kvm_gmem_get_pfn() later on? Of course, the caching here is rather
> straight forward.

Done.

Thanks,
/fuad

> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-22 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-13 16:34 [PATCH v9 00/17] KVM: Mapping guest_memfd backed memory at the host for software protected VMs Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 01/17] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GMEM Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  7:14   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 02/17] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 21:56   ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-21  7:14   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 03/17] KVM: Rename kvm_arch_has_private_mem() to kvm_arch_supports_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  7:15   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 04/17] KVM: x86: Rename kvm->arch.has_private_mem to kvm->arch.supports_gmem Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  7:15   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 05/17] KVM: Rename kvm_slot_can_be_private() to kvm_slot_has_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  7:16   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 06/17] KVM: Fix comments that refer to slots_lock Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  7:16   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 07/17] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to map guest_memfd() pages Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 18:37   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-16 19:21     ` James Houghton
2025-05-18 15:17       ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  7:36         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-14  8:03   ` Shivank Garg
2025-05-14  9:45     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 10:07   ` Roy, Patrick
2025-05-14 11:30     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 20:40   ` James Houghton
2025-05-15  7:25     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-15 23:42   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-16  7:31     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-16  6:08   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-16  7:56     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-16 11:12       ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-16 14:20         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  7:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 08/17] KVM: guest_memfd: Check that userspace_addr and fd+offset refer to same range Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 20:30   ` James Houghton
2025-05-14  7:33     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 13:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-14 13:47         ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 13:52           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-14 17:39   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle guest page faults for guest_memfd with shared memory Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  7:48   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22  0:40     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-22  7:16       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22  7:46         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-22  8:14           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 10:24             ` Fuad Tabba [this message]
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 10/17] KVM: x86: Compute max_mapping_level with input from guest_memfd Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14  7:13   ` Shivank Garg
2025-05-14  7:24     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 15:27   ` kernel test robot
2025-05-21  8:01   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22  0:45     ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-22 13:22       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-22 13:49         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22  7:22     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-22  8:56       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22  9:34         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 11/17] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() calculation of force_pte Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 12/17] KVM: arm64: Rename variables in user_mem_abort() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  2:25   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-21  9:57     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  8:02   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 13/17] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 21:26   ` James Houghton
2025-05-15  9:27     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  8:04   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 11:10     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 14/17] KVM: arm64: Enable mapping guest_memfd in arm64 Fuad Tabba
2025-05-15 23:50   ` James Houghton
2025-05-16  7:07     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  8:05   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 10:12     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 10:26       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 10:29         ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 12:44           ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 13:15             ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 13:21               ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 13:32                 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 13:45                   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 14:14                     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 15/17] KVM: Introduce the KVM capability KVM_CAP_GMEM_SHARED_MEM Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  2:46   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-21  8:24     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  8:06   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 16/17] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mapping is allowed Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21  6:53   ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-21  9:38     ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 17/17] KVM: selftests: Test guest_memfd same-range validation Fuad Tabba

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