From: Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 09/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle guest page faults for guest_memfd with shared memory
Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 11:24:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+EHjTy1K_fLSLB9H9wBvnRXoijdY2LTuPTebW_C-pAzaNEu3g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5e6abbf-76a9-4263-892f-3085b148b209@redhat.com>
On Thu, 22 May 2025 at 09:15, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On 22.05.25 09:46, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> > Hi David,
> >
> > On Thu, 22 May 2025 at 08:16, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> + * shared (i.e., non-CoCo VMs).
> >>>>> + */
> >>>>> static inline bool kvm_mem_is_private(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn)
> >>>>> {
> >>>>> - return IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM) &&
> >>>>> - kvm_get_memory_attributes(kvm, gfn) & KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE;
> >>>>> + struct kvm_memory_slot *slot;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + if (!IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM_GMEM))
> >>>>> + return false;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + slot = gfn_to_memslot(kvm, gfn);
> >>>>> + if (kvm_slot_has_gmem(slot) && kvm_gmem_memslot_supports_shared(slot)) {
> >>>>> + /*
> >>>>> + * For now, memslots only support in-place shared memory if the
> >>>>> + * host is allowed to mmap memory (i.e., non-Coco VMs).
> >>>>> + */
> >>>>
> >>>> Not accurate: there is no in-place conversion support in this series,
> >>>> because there is no such itnerface. So the reason is that all memory is
> >>>> shared for there VM types?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> True that there's no in-place conversion yet.
> >>>
> >>> In this patch series, guest_memfd memslots support shared memory only
> >>> for specific VM types (on x86, that would be KVM_X86_DEFAULT_VM and
> >>> KVM_X86_SW_PROTECTED_VMs).
> >>>
> >>> How about this wording:
> >>>
> >>> Without conversion support, if the guest_memfd memslot supports shared
> >>> memory, all memory must be used as not private (implicitly shared).
> >>>
> >>
> >> LGTM
> >>
> >>>>> + return false;
> >>>>> + }
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + return kvm_get_memory_attributes(kvm, gfn) & KVM_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTE_PRIVATE;
> >>>>> }
> >>>>> #else
> >>>>> static inline bool kvm_mem_is_private(struct kvm *kvm, gfn_t gfn)
> >>>>> diff --git a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> >>>>> index 2f499021df66..fe0245335c96 100644
> >>>>> --- a/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> >>>>> +++ b/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c
> >>>>> @@ -388,6 +388,23 @@ static int kvm_gmem_mmap(struct file *file, struct vm_area_struct *vma)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> return 0;
> >>>>> }
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> +bool kvm_gmem_memslot_supports_shared(const struct kvm_memory_slot *slot)
> >>>>> +{
> >>>>> + struct file *file;
> >>>>> + bool ret;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + file = kvm_gmem_get_file((struct kvm_memory_slot *)slot);
> >>>>> + if (!file)
> >>>>> + return false;
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + ret = kvm_gmem_supports_shared(file_inode(file));
> >>>>> +
> >>>>> + fput(file);
> >>>>> + return ret;
> >>>>
> >>>> Would it make sense to cache that information in the memslot, to avoid
> >>>> the get/put?
> >>>>
> >>>> We could simply cache when creating the memslot I guess.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> When I wrote it I was assuming that to ensure correctness we should
> >>> check with guest memfd, like what if someone closed the gmem file in the
> >>> middle of the fault path?
> >>>
> >>> But I guess after the discussion at the last call, since the faulting
> >>> process is long and racy, if this check passed and we go to guest memfd
> >>> and the file was closed, it would just fail so I guess caching is fine.
> >>
> >> Yes, that would be my assumption. I mean, we also msut make sure that if
> >> the user does something stupid like that, that we won't trigger other
> >> undesired code paths (like, suddenly the guest_memfd being !shared).
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> As an alternative ... could we simple get/put when managing the memslot?
> >>>
> >>> What does a simple get/put mean here?
> >>
> >> s/simple/simply/
> >>
> >> So when we create the memslot, we'd perform the get, and when we destroy
> >> the memslot, we'd do the put.
> >>
> >> Just an idea.
> >
> > I'm not sure we can do that. The comment in kvm_gmem_bind() on
> > dropping the reference to the file explains why:
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.14.7/source/virt/kvm/guest_memfd.c#L526
>
> Right, although it is rather suboptimal; we have to constantly get/put
> the file, even in kvm_gmem_get_pfn() right now.
>
> Repeatedly two atomics and a bunch of checks ... for something a sane
> use case should never trigger.
>
> Anyhow, that's probably something to optimize also for
> kvm_gmem_get_pfn() later on? Of course, the caching here is rather
> straight forward.
Done.
Thanks,
/fuad
> --
> Cheers,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-05-22 10:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-13 16:34 [PATCH v9 00/17] KVM: Mapping guest_memfd backed memory at the host for software protected VMs Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 01/17] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GMEM Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 7:14 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 02/17] KVM: Rename CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM to CONFIG_KVM_GENERIC_GMEM_POPULATE Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 21:56 ` Ira Weiny
2025-05-21 7:14 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 03/17] KVM: Rename kvm_arch_has_private_mem() to kvm_arch_supports_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 7:15 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 04/17] KVM: x86: Rename kvm->arch.has_private_mem to kvm->arch.supports_gmem Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 7:15 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 05/17] KVM: Rename kvm_slot_can_be_private() to kvm_slot_has_gmem() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 7:16 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 06/17] KVM: Fix comments that refer to slots_lock Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 7:16 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 07/17] KVM: guest_memfd: Allow host to map guest_memfd() pages Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 18:37 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-16 19:21 ` James Houghton
2025-05-18 15:17 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 7:36 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-14 8:03 ` Shivank Garg
2025-05-14 9:45 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 10:07 ` Roy, Patrick
2025-05-14 11:30 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 20:40 ` James Houghton
2025-05-15 7:25 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-15 23:42 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-16 7:31 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-16 6:08 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-16 7:56 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-16 11:12 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-16 14:20 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 7:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 08/17] KVM: guest_memfd: Check that userspace_addr and fd+offset refer to same range Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 20:30 ` James Houghton
2025-05-14 7:33 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 13:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-14 13:47 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-14 13:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-14 17:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 09/17] KVM: x86/mmu: Handle guest page faults for guest_memfd with shared memory Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 7:48 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 0:40 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-22 7:16 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 7:46 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-22 8:14 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 10:24 ` Fuad Tabba [this message]
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 10/17] KVM: x86: Compute max_mapping_level with input from guest_memfd Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 7:13 ` Shivank Garg
2025-05-14 7:24 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 15:27 ` kernel test robot
2025-05-21 8:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 0:45 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-05-22 13:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-22 13:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 7:22 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-22 8:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-22 9:34 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 11/17] KVM: arm64: Refactor user_mem_abort() calculation of force_pte Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 12/17] KVM: arm64: Rename variables in user_mem_abort() Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 2:25 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-21 9:57 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 8:02 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 13/17] KVM: arm64: Handle guest_memfd()-backed guest page faults Fuad Tabba
2025-05-14 21:26 ` James Houghton
2025-05-15 9:27 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 8:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 11:10 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 14/17] KVM: arm64: Enable mapping guest_memfd in arm64 Fuad Tabba
2025-05-15 23:50 ` James Houghton
2025-05-16 7:07 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 8:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 10:12 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 10:26 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 10:29 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 12:44 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 13:15 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 13:21 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 13:32 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 13:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-21 14:14 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 15/17] KVM: Introduce the KVM capability KVM_CAP_GMEM_SHARED_MEM Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 2:46 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-21 8:24 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 8:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 16/17] KVM: selftests: guest_memfd mmap() test when mapping is allowed Fuad Tabba
2025-05-21 6:53 ` Gavin Shan
2025-05-21 9:38 ` Fuad Tabba
2025-05-13 16:34 ` [PATCH v9 17/17] KVM: selftests: Test guest_memfd same-range validation Fuad Tabba
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