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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/26] KVM: Restricted mapping of guest_memfd at the host and pKVM/arm64 support
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:03:40 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+EHjTwOx930n7Ja6yXZKCmVJ1t_tcccgGpA36o4JigYKEcVAQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240222141602976-0800.eberman@hu-eberman-lv.qualcomm.com>

Hi Elliot,

On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 11:44 PM Elliot Berman <quic_eberman@quicinc.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 04:10:21PM +0000, Fuad Tabba wrote:
> > This series adds restricted mmap() support to guest_memfd [1], as
> > well as support guest_memfd on pKVM/arm64.
> >
> > We haven't started using this in Android yet, but we aim to move
> > away from anonymous memory to guest_memfd once we have the
> > necessary support merged upstream. Others (e.g., Gunyah [8]) are
> > also looking into guest_memfd for similar reasons as us.
>
> I'm especially interested to see if we can factor out much of the common
> implementation bits between KVM and Gunyah. In principle, we're doing
> same thing: the difference is the exact mechanics to interact with the
> hypervisor which (I think) could be easily extracted into an ops
> structure.

I agree. We should share and reuse as much code as possible. I'll sync
with you before the V2 of this series.

> [...]
>
> > In addition to general feedback, we would like feedback on how we
> > handle mmap() and faulting-in guest pages at the host (KVM: Add
> > restricted support for mapping guest_memfd by the host).
> >
> > We don't enforce the invariant that only memory shared with the
> > host can be mapped by the host userspace in
> > file_operations::mmap(), but in vm_operations_struct:fault(). On
> > vm_operations_struct::fault(), we check whether the page is
> > shared with the host. If not, we deliver a SIGBUS to the current
> > task. The reason for enforcing this at fault() is that mmap()
> > does not elevate the pagecount(); it's the faulting in of the
> > page which does. Even if we were to check at mmap() whether an
> > address can be mapped, we would still need to check again on
> > fault(), since between mmap() and fault() the status of the page
> > can change.
> >
> > This creates the situation where access to successfully mmap()'d
> > memory might SIGBUS at page fault. There is precedence for
> > similar behavior in the kernel I believe, with MADV_HWPOISON and
> > the hugetlbfs cgroups controller, which could SIGBUS at page
> > fault time depending on the accounting limit.
>
> I added a test: folio_mmapped() [1] which checks if there's a vma
> covering the corresponding offset into the guest_memfd. I use this
> test before trying to make page private to guest and I've been able to
> ensure that userspace can't even mmap() private guest memory. If I try
> to make memory private, I can test that it's not mmapped and not allow
> memory to become private. In my testing so far, this is enough to
> prevent SIGBUS from happening.
>
> This test probably should be moved outside Gunyah specific code, and was
> looking for maintainer to suggest the right home for it :)
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240222-gunyah-v17-20-1e9da6763d38@quicinc.com/

Let's see what the mm-folks think about this [*].

Thanks!
/fuad

[*] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZdfoR3nCEP3HTtm1@casper.infradead.org/


> >
> > Another pKVM specific aspect we would like feedback on, is how to
> > handle memory mapped by the host being unshared by a guest. The
> > approach we've taken is that on an unshare call from the guest,
> > the host userspace is notified that the memory has been unshared,
> > in order to allow it to unmap it and mark it as PRIVATE as
> > acknowledgment. If the host does not unmap the memory, the
> > unshare call issued by the guest fails, which the guest is
> > informed about on return.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > /fuad
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231105163040.14904-1-pbonzini@redhat.com/
> >
> > [2] https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/linux/+/refs/heads/for-upstream/pkvm-core
> >
> > [3] https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/linux/+/refs/heads/tabba/guestmem-6.8-rfc-v1
> >
> > [4] https://android-kvm.googlesource.com/kvmtool/+/refs/heads/tabba/guestmem-6.8
> >
> > [5] Protected KVM on arm64 (slides)
> > https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/kvmforum2022/88/KVM%20forum%202022%20-%20pKVM%20deep%20dive.pdf
> >
> > [6] Protected KVM on arm64 (video)
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npebeVFbFw
> >
> > [7] Supporting guest private memory in Protected KVM on Android (presentation)
> > https://lpc.events/event/17/contributions/1487/
> >
> > [8] Drivers for Gunyah (patch series)
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240109-gunyah-v16-0-634904bf4ce9@quicinc.com/
>
> As of 5 min ago when I send this, there's a v17:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240222-gunyah-v17-0-1e9da6763d38@quicinc.com/
>
> Thanks,
> Elliot
>


      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-26  9:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20240222161047.402609-1-tabba@google.com>
     [not found] ` <20240222141602976-0800.eberman@hu-eberman-lv.qualcomm.com>
2024-02-23  0:35   ` folio_mmapped Matthew Wilcox
2024-02-26  9:28     ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26 21:14       ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-02-27 14:59         ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 10:48           ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 11:11             ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 12:44               ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 13:00                 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-28 13:34                   ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-02-28 18:43                     ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-02-28 18:51                       ` Quentin Perret
2024-02-29 10:04                     ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-29 19:01                       ` folio_mmapped Fuad Tabba
2024-03-01  0:40                         ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-01 11:16                           ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 12:53                             ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-04 20:22                               ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-01 11:06                         ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 12:36                       ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-04 19:04                         ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-04 20:17                           ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-04 21:43                             ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-04 21:58                               ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19  9:47                                 ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-19  9:54                                   ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-18 17:06                             ` folio_mmapped Vishal Annapurve
2024-03-18 22:02                               ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
     [not found]                                 ` <CAGtprH8B8y0Khrid5X_1twMce7r-Z7wnBiaNOi-QwxVj4D+L3w@mail.gmail.com>
2024-03-19  0:10                                   ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-19 10:26                                     ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19 13:19                                       ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-19 14:31                                       ` folio_mmapped Will Deacon
2024-03-19 23:54                                         ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-22 16:36                                           ` Will Deacon
2024-03-22 18:46                                             ` Elliot Berman
2024-03-27 19:31                                               ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                                         ` <2d6fc3c0-a55b-4316-90b8-deabb065d007@redhat.com>
2024-03-22 21:21                                           ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-26 22:04                                             ` folio_mmapped Elliot Berman
2024-03-27 19:34                                           ` folio_mmapped Will Deacon
2024-03-28  9:06                                             ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-28 10:10                                               ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-28 10:32                                                 ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-28 10:58                                                   ` folio_mmapped Quentin Perret
2024-03-28 11:41                                                     ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-03-29 18:38                                                       ` folio_mmapped Vishal Annapurve
2024-04-04  0:15                                             ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-19 15:04                                       ` folio_mmapped Sean Christopherson
2024-03-22 17:16                                         ` folio_mmapped David Hildenbrand
2024-02-26  9:03   ` Fuad Tabba [this message]

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