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From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 02/22] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 09:48:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bDzExcm-1LMFFQ4FgyfX5yuaPBd2fXdbNsd2yTbrSNKog@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRcSpbwBabFjeYe3@kernel.org>

On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 6:30 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2025 at 04:03:00PM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > Integrate the LUO with the KHO framework to enable passing LUO state
> > across a kexec reboot.
> >
> > When LUO is transitioned to a "prepared" state, it tells KHO to
> > finalize, so all memory segments that were added to KHO preservation
> > list are getting preserved. After "Prepared" state no new segments
> > can be preserved. If LUO is canceled, it also tells KHO to cancel the
> > serialization, and therefore, later LUO can go back into the prepared
> > state.
> >
> > This patch introduces the following changes:
> > - During the KHO finalization phase allocate FDT blob.
> > - Populate this FDT with a LUO compatibility string ("luo-v1").
> >
> > LUO now depends on `CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER`. The core state transition
> > logic (`luo_do_*_calls`) remains unimplemented in this patch.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
> > ---
> >  include/linux/liveupdate.h         |   6 +
> >  include/linux/liveupdate/abi/luo.h |  54 +++++++
> >  kernel/liveupdate/luo_core.c       | 243 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >  kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h   |  17 ++
> >  mm/mm_init.c                       |   4 +
> >  5 files changed, 323 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >  create mode 100644 include/linux/liveupdate/abi/luo.h
> >  create mode 100644 kernel/liveupdate/luo_internal.h
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/liveupdate.h b/include/linux/liveupdate.h
> > index 730b76625fec..0be8804fc42a 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/liveupdate.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/liveupdate.h
> > @@ -13,6 +13,8 @@
> >
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_LIVEUPDATE
> >
> > +void __init liveupdate_init(void);
> > +
> >  /* Return true if live update orchestrator is enabled */
> >  bool liveupdate_enabled(void);
> >
> > @@ -21,6 +23,10 @@ int liveupdate_reboot(void);
> >
> >  #else /* CONFIG_LIVEUPDATE */
> >
> > +static inline void liveupdate_init(void)
> > +{
> > +}
>
> The common practice is to place brackets at the same line with function
> declaration.

Sure.

>
> ...
>
> > +static int __init luo_early_startup(void)
> > +{
> > +     phys_addr_t fdt_phys;
> > +     int err, ln_size;
> > +     const void *ptr;
> > +
> > +     if (!kho_is_enabled()) {
> > +             if (liveupdate_enabled())
> > +                     pr_warn("Disabling liveupdate because KHO is disabled\n");
> > +             luo_global.enabled = false;
> > +             return 0;
> > +     }
> > +
> > +     /* Retrieve LUO subtree, and verify its format. */
> > +     err = kho_retrieve_subtree(LUO_FDT_KHO_ENTRY_NAME, &fdt_phys);
> > +     if (err) {
> > +             if (err != -ENOENT) {
> > +                     pr_err("failed to retrieve FDT '%s' from KHO: %pe\n",
> > +                            LUO_FDT_KHO_ENTRY_NAME, ERR_PTR(err));
> > +                     return err;
> > +             }
> > +
> > +             return 0;
> > +     }
> > +
> > +     luo_global.fdt_in = __va(fdt_phys);
>
> phys_to_virt is clearer, isn't it?

Sure

>
> > +     err = fdt_node_check_compatible(luo_global.fdt_in, 0,
> > +                                     LUO_FDT_COMPATIBLE);
>
> ...
>
> > +void __init liveupdate_init(void)
> > +{
> > +     int err;
> > +
> > +     err = luo_early_startup();
> > +     if (err) {
> > +             pr_err("The incoming tree failed to initialize properly [%pe], disabling live update\n",
> > +                    ERR_PTR(err));
> > +             luo_global.enabled = false;
> > +     }
> > +}
> > +
> > +/* Called during boot to create LUO fdt tree */
>
>                          ^ create outgoing

OK

>
> > +static int __init luo_late_startup(void)
> > +{
> > +     int err;
> > +
> > +     if (!liveupdate_enabled())
> > +             return 0;
> > +
> > +     err = luo_fdt_setup();
> > +     if (err)
> > +             luo_global.enabled = false;
> > +
> > +     return err;
> > +}
> > +late_initcall(luo_late_startup);
>
> It would be nice to have a comment explaining why late_initcall() is fine
> and why there's no need to initialize the outgoing fdt earlier.

I will add a comment; basically it is fine because the outgoing data
structures are only used after we enter userspace.

>
> > +/**
> > + * luo_alloc_preserve - Allocate, zero, and preserve memory.
>
> I think this and the "free" counterparts would be useful for any KHO users,
> even those that don't need LUO.

I will move them to KHO.

>
> > + * @size: The number of bytes to allocate.
> > + *
> > + * Allocates a physically contiguous block of zeroed pages that is large
> > + * enough to hold @size bytes. The allocated memory is then registered with
> > + * KHO for preservation across a kexec.
> > + *
> > + * Note: The actual allocated size will be rounded up to the nearest
> > + * power-of-two page boundary.
> > + *
> > + * @return A virtual pointer to the allocated and preserved memory on success,
> > + * or an ERR_PTR() encoded error on failure.
> > + */
> > +void *luo_alloc_preserve(size_t size)
> > +{
> > +     struct folio *folio;
> > +     int order, ret;
> > +
> > +     if (!size)
> > +             return ERR_PTR(-EINVAL);
> > +
> > +     order = get_order(size);
> > +     if (order > MAX_PAGE_ORDER)
> > +             return ERR_PTR(-E2BIG);
>
> High order allocations would likely fail or at least cause a heavy reclaim.
> For now it seems that we won't be needing really large contiguous chunks so
> maybe limiting this to PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER?

Let's use MAX_PAGE_ORDER for now, my concern is that
PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER too fragile to make it part of ABI. If
allocation fails, the user will have to deal with it, as we return a
proper error code.

> Later if we'd need higher order allocations we can try to allocate with
> __GFP_NORETRY or __GFP_RETRY_MAYFAIL with a fallback to vmalloc.
>
> > +
> > +     folio = folio_alloc(GFP_KERNEL | __GFP_ZERO, order);
> > +     if (!folio)
> > +             return ERR_PTR(-ENOMEM);
> > +
> > +     ret = kho_preserve_folio(folio);
> > +     if (ret) {
> > +             folio_put(folio);
> > +             return ERR_PTR(ret);
> > +     }
> > +
> > +     return folio_address(folio);
> > +}
> > +
>
> --
> Sincerely yours,
> Mike.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-14 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-07 21:02 [PATCH v5 00/22] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:02 ` [PATCH v5 01/22] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: " Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 13:37   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-13 13:56     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 02/22] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 13:00   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 15:43     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:16       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:57         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 13:25           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 14:58             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:31               ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-13 18:38                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:25   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:39     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:42       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 10:21         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 12:46           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 13:33             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 15:14               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 17:39                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 11:29   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:48     ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 03/22] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 11:30   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 04/22] liveupdate: Kconfig: Make debugfs optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 05/22] liveupdate: kho: when live update add KHO image during kexec load Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 12:47   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 15:31     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:18       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:59         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 06/22] liveupdate: luo_session: add sessions support Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 20:39   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 20:47     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 12:49   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:07     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 07/22] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add user interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 12:57   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:09     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 08/22] liveupdate: luo_file: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 17:27   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-10 17:42     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 09/22] liveupdate: luo_session: Add ioctls for file preservation and state management Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 10/22] liveupdate: luo_flb: Introduce File-Lifecycle-Bound global state Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 11/22] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 12/22] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 13/22] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 14/22] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 15/22] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 16/22] liveupdate: luo_file: add private argument to store runtime state Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 17/22] mm: memfd_luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 18/22] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:55   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:59     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 19/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add userspace API selftests Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 20/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add kexec-based selftest for session lifecycle Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 21/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add kexec test for multiple and empty sessions Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 22/22] tests/liveupdate: Add in-kernel liveupdate test Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 20:23   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 20:40     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 18:36       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 14:09         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 22:33 ` [PATCH v5 00/22] Live Update Orchestrator Andrew Morton
2025-11-08 18:13   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-08 18:36     ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-09  2:31       ` Pasha Tatashin

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