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From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 17/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Unregister all FDs on device close
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 17:23:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bD_-xwwUBnF4TBCBuX33uL6+V_1nN=0Q8_NXwhubTc8yA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mafs07byoye0q.fsf@kernel.org>

On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:34 AM Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Pasha,
>
> On Thu, Aug 07 2025, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
>
> > Currently, a file descriptor registered for preservation via the remains
> > globally registered with LUO until it is explicitly unregistered. This
> > creates a potential for resource leaks into the next kernel if the
> > userspace agent crashes or exits without proper cleanup before a live
> > update is fully initiated.
> >
> > This patch ties the lifetime of FD preservation requests to the lifetime
> > of the open file descriptor for /dev/liveupdate, creating an implicit
> > "session".
> >
> > When the /dev/liveupdate file descriptor is closed (either explicitly
> > via close() or implicitly on process exit/crash), the .release
> > handler, luo_release(), is now called. This handler invokes the new
> > function luo_unregister_all_files(), which iterates through all FDs
> > that were preserved through that session and unregisters them.
>
> Why special case files here? Shouldn't you undo all the serialization
> done for all the subsystems?

Good point, subsystems should also be cancelled, and system should be
brought back to normal state. However, with session support, we will
be dropping only FDs that belong to a specific session when its FD is
closed, or all FDs+subsystems when closing /dev/liveupdate.

> Anyway, this is buggy. I found this when testing the memfd patches. If
> you preserve a memfd and close the /dev/liveupdate FD before reboot,
> luo_unregister_all_files() calls the cancel callback, which calls
> kho_unpreserve_folio(). But kho_unpreserve_folio() fails because KHO is
> still in finalized state. This doesn't happen when cancelling explicitly
> because luo_cancel() calls kho_abort().

Yes, KHO still has its states, that break the LUO logic. I think,
there is going to be some limitations until "stateless" kho patches
land.

> I think you should just make the release go through the cancel flow,
> since the operation is essentially a cancel anyway. There are subtle
> differences here though, since the release might be called before
> prepare, so we need to be careful of that.

Makes sense.

Thank you,
Pasha


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-22 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 147+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07  1:44 [PATCH v3 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 01/30] kho: init new_physxa->phys_bits to fix lockdep Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:42   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 11:52     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 14:00       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 19:06         ` Andrew Morton
2025-08-08 19:51           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 20:19             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:11   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 14:57     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 02/30] kho: mm: Don't allow deferred struct page with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:47   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 14:01     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 03/30] kho: warn if KHO is disabled due to an error Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 11:48   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 04/30] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 05/30] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 06/30] kho: drop notifiers Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 07/30] kho: add interfaces to unpreserve folios and physical memory ranges Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-14 15:05     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 17:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-15  9:12     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-18 13:55       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-21 22:20         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-25  5:26           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 08/30] kho: don't unpreserve memory during abort Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:30   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 14:57     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 09/30] liveupdate: kho: move to kernel/liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-30  8:35   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-22 14:54     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 10/30] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:31   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 15:00     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 11/30] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 12/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 13/30] liveupdate: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 14/30] liveupdate: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 15/30] liveupdate: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 16/30] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add userpsace interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 13:49   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 21:09     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 17/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Unregister all FDs on device close Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-27 15:34   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-22 21:23     ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2025-09-23 13:13       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 18/30] liveupdate: luo_files: luo_ioctl: Add ioctls for per-file state management Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-14 14:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-22 23:17     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 19/30] liveupdate: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 16:03   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 18:58     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09  1:07   ` yanjun.zhu
2025-10-09  5:20     ` Greg KH
2025-10-09 10:58     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-09 12:01       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 14:50         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-09 15:34         ` Zhu Yanjun
2025-10-09 17:04           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-09 17:30             ` Yanjun.Zhu
2025-10-09 17:56             ` Yanjun.Zhu
2025-10-09 23:12               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-10  6:39                 ` Greg KH
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 20/30] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 21/30] kho: move kho debugfs directory to liveupdate Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 22/30] liveupdate: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 23/30] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 24/30] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 25/30] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 26/30] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-11 23:11   ` Vipin Sharma
2025-08-13 12:42     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 27/30] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 28/30] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 29/30] luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 20:22   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 12:44     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13  6:34   ` Vipin Sharma
2025-08-13  7:09     ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 12:02       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 12:14         ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 12:41           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:00             ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 13:37               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 13:41                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 13:53                   ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 13:53                 ` Greg KH
2025-08-13 20:03               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-13 13:31             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 12:29     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-13 13:49       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-13 13:55         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-26 16:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-27 15:03     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-28 12:43       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-28 23:00         ` Chris Li
2025-09-01 17:10         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-02 13:48           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 14:10             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-03 15:01               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-04 12:57                 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-04 14:42                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 14:53                     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-09 15:40                       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 15:54                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 16:30                           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 16:57                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 17:27                               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-09 15:56                         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-09 16:25                           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-28  7:14     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-08-29 18:47       ` Chris Li
2025-08-29 19:18     ` Chris Li
2025-09-02 13:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 12:01         ` Chris Li
2025-09-04 17:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-09 14:48             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-01 16:23     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-01 16:54       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-01 17:21         ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-01 19:02           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-02 11:38             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 15:59               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-09-03 16:40                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-09-03 19:29                 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-02 11:58         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-01 17:01       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-02 11:44         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-03 14:17           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-09-03 19:39             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-09-04 12:39               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-07  1:44 ` [PATCH v3 30/30] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/30] Live Update Orchestrator David Hildenbrand
2025-08-08 12:24   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-08 13:53     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-08 13:52   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 13:16 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-08-26 13:54   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 14:24     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 15:02       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 15:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 16:10           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 16:22             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-26 17:03               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-08-26 17:08                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-08-27 14:01                 ` Pratyush Yadav

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