From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Chih-En Lin <shiyn.lin@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/14] Introduce Copy-On-Write to Page Table
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 13:52:16 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bDYHT4m=we7jbLWxneZTnBt2wJd2Msw67V97c1nNq-KZQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y+vV9YaiEIUQaW65@strix-laptop>
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 1:42 PM Chih-En Lin <shiyn.lin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 11:30:26AM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > > > The thing with THP is, that during fork(), we always allocate a backup PTE
> > > > table, to be able to PTE-map the THP whenever we have to. Otherwise we'd
> > > > have to eventually fail some operations we don't want to fail -- similar to
> > > > the case where break_cow_pte() could fail now due to -ENOMEM although we
> > > > really don't want to fail (e.g., change_pte_range() ).
> > > >
> > > > I always considered that wasteful, because in many scenarios, we'll never
> > > > ever split a THP and possibly waste memory.
> > > >
> > > > Optimizing that for THP (e.g., don't always allocate backup THP, have some
> > > > global allocation backup pool for splits + refill when close-to-empty) might
> > > > provide similar fork() improvements, both in speed and memory consumption
> > > > when it comes to anonymous memory.
> > >
> > > When collapsing huge pages, do/can they reuse those PTEs for backup?
> > > So, we don't have to allocate the PTE or maintain the pool.
> >
> > It might not work for all pages, as collapsing pages might have had
> > holes in the user page table, and there were no PTE tables.
>
> So if there have holes in the user page table, after we doing the
> collapsing and then splitting. Do those holes be filled? Assume it is,
> then, I think it's the reason why it's not work for all the pages.
>
> But, after those operations, Will the user get the additional and
> unexpected memory (which is from the huge page filling)?
Yes, more memory is going to be allocated for a process in such THP
collapse case. This is similar to madvise huge pages, and touching the
first byte may allocate 2M.
Pasha
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-14 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-07 3:51 Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] mm: Allow user to control COW PTE via prctl Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] mm: Add Copy-On-Write PTE to fork() Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] mm: Add break COW PTE fault and helper functions Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] mm/rmap: Break COW PTE in rmap walking Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] mm/khugepaged: Break COW PTE before scanning pte Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] mm/ksm: Break COW PTE before modify shared PTE Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] mm/madvise: Handle COW-ed PTE with madvise() Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] mm/gup: Trigger break COW PTE before calling follow_pfn_pte() Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] mm/mprotect: Break COW PTE before changing protection Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] mm/userfaultfd: Support COW PTE Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] mm/migrate_device: " Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] fs/proc: Support COW PTE with clear_refs_write Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] events/uprobes: Break COW PTE before replacing page Chih-En Lin
2023-02-07 3:51 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] mm: fork: Enable COW PTE to fork system call Chih-En Lin
2023-02-09 18:15 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] Introduce Copy-On-Write to Page Table Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-10 2:17 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-10 16:21 ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-10 17:20 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-10 19:02 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 9:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 13:07 ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-14 13:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 15:59 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 16:30 ` Pasha Tatashin
2023-02-14 18:41 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 18:52 ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2023-02-14 19:17 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 16:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 17:03 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 17:56 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 17:54 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 17:59 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 19:06 ` Chih-En Lin
2023-02-14 17:23 ` Yang Shi
2023-02-14 17:39 ` David Hildenbrand
2023-02-14 18:25 ` Yang Shi
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