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charset="UTF-8" X-Stat-Signature: dq58ae7t6jp8hpdz1w1w5ith69n8774p X-Rspamd-Server: rspam10 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9BA85180026 X-Rspam-User: X-HE-Tag: 1707868487-382888 X-HE-Meta: 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 gppYSuh+ L/AJn33GQHYjbaiHVXwMYkJVEnn4y84CxflGYPzIAfF/eiDY5S12oR6nZymT8+VIIctTICLY+UrRwm7eF+rRJfoX/dFTAoHX1/jpqs51RwObWiax4MKjqjJSER2BT4U87zZExebqoMUYD68FNJ19RBB9zgwGUrYUTb7pbX1Jt17TGtpypT1l2htLarhx9Hf5NbSg9C46O5WnDSaixk0DsHn34a7prcB+GqC6QcT5Kw9UgX81fxHSXEuWQ5lN2Cl3Q6V13wYiGLAPUf/Wh2CDn5P+EuwSKG0GHdEPk6aWF6iR/Ev2VltVS4mIMLrMK3esMQNXtHCo5Au4Ibzr0FEPAudzTfKQWPitUTN0w X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 Sender: owner-linux-mm@kvack.org Precedence: bulk X-Loop: owner-majordomo@kvack.org List-ID: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: > > I tried to be helpful, finding ways *not having to* bypass the MM > > community to get MM stuff merged. > > > > The reply I got is mostly negative energy. > > > > So you don't need my help here, understood. > > > > But I will fight against any attempts to bypass the MM community. > > Well, I'm definitely not trying to bypass the MM community, that's why > this patchset is posted. Not sure why people can't voice their opinion > on the benefit/cost balance of the patchset over the email... But if a > meeting would be more productive I'm happy to set it up. Discussing these concerns during the next available MM Alignment session makes sense. At a minimum, Suren and Kent can present their reasons for believing the current approach is superior to the previously proposed alternatives. However, delaying the discussion and feature merge until after LSF/MM seems unnecessary. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, we've already leveraged the concepts within this feature to debug unexplained memory overhead, saving us many terabytes of memory. This was just the initial benefit; we haven't even explored its full potential to track every allocation path. Pasha