From: Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>,
Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com>,
mike.kravetz@oracle.com, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] prohibit pinning pages in ZONE_MOVABLE
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 10:55:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bCD7XYyJB9TNZZeUMAuntotZopVYNjDXnyVZyzKe2_A1Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201204035953.GA17056@js1304-desktop>
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 11:03 PM Joonsoo Kim <js1304@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 12:23:24AM -0500, Pavel Tatashin wrote:
> > When page is pinned it cannot be moved and its physical address stays
> > the same until pages is unpinned.
> >
> > This is useful functionality to allows userland to implementation DMA
> > access. For example, it is used by vfio in vfio_pin_pages().
> >
> > However, this functionality breaks memory hotplug/hotremove assumptions
> > that pages in ZONE_MOVABLE can always be migrated.
> >
> > This patch series fixes this issue by forcing new allocations during
> > page pinning to omit ZONE_MOVABLE, and also to migrate any existing
> > pages from ZONE_MOVABLE during pinning.
>
> I love what this patchset does, but, at least, it's better to consider
> the side-effect of this patchset and inform it in somewhere. IIUC,
> ZONE_MOVABLE exists for two purposes.
>
> 1) increasing availability of THP
> 2) memory hot-unplug
>
> Potential issue would come from the case 1). They uses ZONE_MOVABLE
> for THP availability and hard guarantee for migration isn't required
> until now. So, there would be a system with following congifuration.
>
> - memory layout: ZONE_NORMAL-512MB, ZONE_MOVABLE-512MB
> - memory usage: unmovable-256MB, movable pinned-256MB, movable
> unpinned-512MB
>
> With this patchset, movable pinned should be placed in ZONE_NORMAL so
> 512MB is required for ZONE_NORMAL. ZONE_NORMAL would be exhausted and
> system performance would be highly afftect according to memory usage
> pattern.
>
> I'm not sure whether such configuration exists or not, but, at least,
> it's better to write down this risk on commit message or something
> else.
Yes, this indeed could be a problem for some configurations. I will
add your comment to the commit log of one of the patches.
Thank you,
Pasha
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-04 15:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-02 5:23 Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 5:23 ` [PATCH 1/6] mm/gup: perform check_dax_vmas only when FS_DAX is enabled Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 16:22 ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-02 18:15 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 16:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-02 18:16 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 7:59 ` John Hubbard
2020-12-03 14:52 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 5:23 ` [PATCH 2/6] mm/gup: don't pin migrated cma pages in movable zone Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 16:31 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-12-02 18:17 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 8:01 ` John Hubbard
2020-12-03 8:46 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-03 14:58 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 5:23 ` [PATCH 3/6] mm/gup: make __gup_longterm_locked common Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 16:31 ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-02 16:33 ` Ira Weiny
2020-12-02 18:19 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 0:03 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 8:03 ` John Hubbard
2020-12-03 15:02 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 5:23 ` [PATCH 4/6] mm cma: rename PF_MEMALLOC_NOCMA to PF_MEMALLOC_NOMOVABLE Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 8:04 ` John Hubbard
2020-12-03 15:02 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 8:57 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-03 15:02 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 5:23 ` [PATCH 5/6] mm: honor PF_MEMALLOC_NOMOVABLE for all allocations Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 8:17 ` John Hubbard
2020-12-03 15:06 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 16:51 ` John Hubbard
2020-12-03 9:17 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-03 15:15 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-04 8:43 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-04 8:54 ` Michal Hocko
2020-12-04 16:07 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 5:23 ` [PATCH 6/6] mm/gup: migrate pinned pages out of movable zone Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-02 16:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 0:19 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 1:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 1:34 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 14:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 16:40 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 16:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 17:14 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 19:15 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-03 19:36 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 16:24 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-04 17:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 20:05 ` Daniel Jordan
2020-12-04 20:16 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-08 2:27 ` Daniel Jordan
2020-12-04 20:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-08 2:48 ` Daniel Jordan
2020-12-08 13:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-03 8:22 ` John Hubbard
2020-12-03 15:55 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-04 4:13 ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-04 17:43 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-07 7:13 ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-04 4:02 ` [PATCH 0/6] prohibit pinning pages in ZONE_MOVABLE Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-04 15:55 ` Pavel Tatashin [this message]
2020-12-04 16:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-12-04 17:50 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-04 18:01 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-12-04 18:10 ` Pavel Tatashin
2020-12-07 7:12 ` Joonsoo Kim
2020-12-07 12:13 ` Michal Hocko
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