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From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, brauner@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	 graf@amazon.com, jgg@ziepe.ca, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	masahiroy@kernel.org,  ojeda@kernel.org, pratyush@kernel.org,
	rdunlap@infradead.org, rppt@kernel.org,  tj@kernel.org,
	jasonmiu@google.com, skhawaja@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] liveupdate: kho: warn and fail on metadata or preserved memory in scratch area
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2025 20:01:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bAibAPzTq+edRTXS9g7Cs0w-zCiSSrXUkoFAHe7=3C0QA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALzav=egQiF6tanYxR9Tow7TnT_UK9bNAR_4DQ2P=2EJ+H4ZJA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 6:29 PM David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 5:08 PM Pasha Tatashin
> <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com> wrote:
> >
> > It is invalid for KHO metadata or preserved memory regions to be located
> > within the KHO scratch area, as this area is overwritten when the next
> > kernel is loaded, and used early in boot by the next kernel. This can
> > lead to memory corruption.
> >
> > Adds checks to kho_preserve_* and KHO's internal metadata allocators
> > (xa_load_or_alloc, new_chunk) to verify that the physical address of the
> > memory does not overlap with any defined scratch region. If an overlap
> > is detected, the operation will fail and a WARN_ON is triggered. To
> > avoid performance overhead in production kernels, these checks are
> > enabled only when CONFIG_KEXEC_HANDOVER_DEBUG is selected.
>
> How many scratch regions are there in practice? Checking
> unconditionally seems like a small price to pay to avoid possible
> memory corruption. Especially since most KHO preservation should
> happen while the VM is still running (so does not have to by
> hyper-optimized).

The debug option can be enabled on production system as well, we have
some debug options enabled, but I do not see a reason to make this a
fixed cost that can add up; the runtime cost scares me, as we might be
using KHO preserve/unpreserve often once stateless KHO + slab
preservation is implemented during some allocations paths. Let's keep
it optional.

>
> >  static void *xa_load_or_alloc(struct xarray *xa, unsigned long index, size_t sz)
> >  {
> > -       void *elm, *res;
> > +       void *res = xa_load(xa, index);
> >
> > -       elm = xa_load(xa, index);
> > -       if (elm)
> > -               return elm;
> > +       if (res)
> > +               return res;
> > +
> > +       void *elm __free(kfree) = kzalloc(sz, GFP_KERNEL);
>
> nit: This breaks the local style of always declaring variables at the
> beginning of blocks.

I think this suggestion came from Mike, to me it looks alright, as it
is only part of the clean-up path.

Pasha


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-28  0:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-21  0:08 [PATCH v3 0/3] KHO: kfence + KHO memory corruption fix Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-21  0:08 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] liveupdate: kho: warn and fail on metadata or preserved memory in scratch area Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-22 10:22   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-27 22:29   ` David Matlack
2025-10-28  0:01     ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2025-10-29 16:09       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-10-29  8:48   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-29 22:22     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-29 22:35       ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-21  0:08 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] liveupdate: kho: Increase metadata bitmap size to PAGE_SIZE Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-22 10:25   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-10-27 22:44   ` David Matlack
2025-10-27 22:56   ` David Matlack
2025-10-27 23:01     ` David Matlack
2025-10-28  0:03       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-21  0:08 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] liveupdate: kho: allocate metadata directly from the buddy allocator Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-27 23:04   ` David Matlack
2025-10-28  0:03     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-21  6:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] KHO: kfence + KHO memory corruption fix Mike Rapoport
2025-10-21 16:04   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-21 20:53     ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-22  0:15       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-10-22  5:48         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-10-22 18:24           ` Andrew Morton
2025-10-23  2:45         ` Andrew Morton

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