From: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/22] liveupdate: kho: when live update add KHO image during kexec load
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 10:31:23 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+CK2bA=cQkibx4dSxJQTVxVxqkAsZPfFoPJip6rx8DqX62aEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aRHe3syRvOrCYC9u@kernel.org>
On Mon, Nov 10, 2025 at 7:47 AM Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 07, 2025 at 04:03:03PM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > In case KHO is driven from within kernel via live update, finalize will
> > always happen during reboot, so add the KHO image unconditionally.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
> > ---
> > kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c | 3 ++-
> > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c b/kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c
> > index 9f0913e101be..b54ca665e005 100644
> > --- a/kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c
> > +++ b/kernel/liveupdate/kexec_handover.c
> > @@ -15,6 +15,7 @@
> > #include <linux/kexec_handover.h>
> > #include <linux/libfdt.h>
> > #include <linux/list.h>
> > +#include <linux/liveupdate.h>
> > #include <linux/memblock.h>
> > #include <linux/page-isolation.h>
> > #include <linux/vmalloc.h>
> > @@ -1489,7 +1490,7 @@ int kho_fill_kimage(struct kimage *image)
> > int err = 0;
> > struct kexec_buf scratch;
> >
> > - if (!kho_out.finalized)
> > + if (!kho_out.finalized && !liveupdate_enabled())
> > return 0;
>
> This feels backwards, I don't think KHO should call liveupdate methods.
It is backward, but it is a requirement until KHO becomes stateless.
LUO does not have dependencies on userspace state of when kexec is
loaded. In fact the next kernel must be loaded before the brownout as
it is an expensive operation. The sequence of events should:
1. Load the next kernel in memory
2. Preserve resources via LUO
3. Do Kexec reboot
Pasha
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-10 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-07 21:02 [PATCH v5 00/22] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:02 ` [PATCH v5 01/22] liveupdate: luo_core: luo_ioctl: " Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 13:37 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-13 13:56 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 02/22] liveupdate: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 13:00 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 15:43 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:16 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:57 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 13:25 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 14:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:31 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-13 18:38 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:25 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:39 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-11 20:42 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 10:21 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 12:46 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 13:33 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 15:14 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 17:39 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 11:29 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:48 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 03/22] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 11:30 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 04/22] liveupdate: Kconfig: Make debugfs optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 05/22] liveupdate: kho: when live update add KHO image during kexec load Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 12:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-10 15:31 ` Pasha Tatashin [this message]
2025-11-11 20:18 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-11 20:59 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 06/22] liveupdate: luo_session: add sessions support Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 20:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 20:47 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 12:49 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:07 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 07/22] liveupdate: luo_ioctl: add user interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-14 12:57 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-14 14:09 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 08/22] liveupdate: luo_file: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-10 17:27 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-10 17:42 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 09/22] liveupdate: luo_session: Add ioctls for file preservation and state management Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 10/22] liveupdate: luo_flb: Introduce File-Lifecycle-Bound global state Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 11/22] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 12/22] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 13/22] mm: shmem: use SHMEM_F_* flags instead of VM_* flags Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 14/22] mm: shmem: allow freezing inode mapping Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 15/22] mm: shmem: export some functions to internal.h Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 16/22] liveupdate: luo_file: add private argument to store runtime state Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 17/22] mm: memfd_luo: allow preserving memfd Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 18/22] docs: add documentation for memfd preservation via LUO Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:55 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-13 16:59 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 19/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add userspace API selftests Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 20/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add kexec-based selftest for session lifecycle Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 21/22] selftests/liveupdate: Add kexec test for multiple and empty sessions Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 21:03 ` [PATCH v5 22/22] tests/liveupdate: Add in-kernel liveupdate test Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-12 20:23 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-12 20:40 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-16 18:36 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-11-17 14:09 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-07 22:33 ` [PATCH v5 00/22] Live Update Orchestrator Andrew Morton
2025-11-08 18:13 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-11-08 18:36 ` Andrew Morton
2025-11-09 2:31 ` Pasha Tatashin
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