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From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Cc: Zdenek Kabelac <zkabelac@redhat.com>,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Robert Jennings <rcj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "mm: remove __GFP_NO_KSWAPD"
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 14:14:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+5PVA75XDJjo45YQ7+8chJp9OEhZxgPMBUpHmnq1ihYFfpOaw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121112113731.GS8218@suse.de>

On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 6:37 AM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de> wrote:
> With "mm: vmscan: scale number of pages reclaimed by reclaim/compaction
> based on failures" reverted, Zdenek Kabelac reported the following
>
>         Hmm,  so it's just took longer to hit the problem and observe
>         kswapd0 spinning on my CPU again - it's not as endless like before -
>         but still it easily eats minutes - it helps to  turn off  Firefox
>         or TB  (memory hungry apps) so kswapd0 stops soon - and restart
>         those apps again.  (And I still have like >1GB of cached memory)
>
>         kswapd0         R  running task        0    30      2 0x00000000
>          ffff8801331efae8 0000000000000082 0000000000000018 0000000000000246
>          ffff880135b9a340 ffff8801331effd8 ffff8801331effd8 ffff8801331effd8
>          ffff880055dfa340 ffff880135b9a340 00000000331efad8 ffff8801331ee000
>         Call Trace:
>          [<ffffffff81555bf2>] preempt_schedule+0x42/0x60
>          [<ffffffff81557a95>] _raw_spin_unlock+0x55/0x60
>          [<ffffffff81192971>] put_super+0x31/0x40
>          [<ffffffff81192a42>] drop_super+0x22/0x30
>          [<ffffffff81193b89>] prune_super+0x149/0x1b0
>          [<ffffffff81141e2a>] shrink_slab+0xba/0x510
>
> The sysrq+m indicates the system has no swap so it'll never reclaim
> anonymous pages as part of reclaim/compaction. That is one part of the
> problem but not the root cause as file-backed pages could also be reclaimed.
>
> The likely underlying problem is that kswapd is woken up or kept awake
> for each THP allocation request in the page allocator slow path.
>
> If compaction fails for the requesting process then compaction will be
> deferred for a time and direct reclaim is avoided. However, if there
> are a storm of THP requests that are simply rejected, it will still
> be the the case that kswapd is awake for a prolonged period of time
> as pgdat->kswapd_max_order is updated each time. This is noticed by
> the main kswapd() loop and it will not call kswapd_try_to_sleep().
> Instead it will loopp, shrinking a small number of pages and calling
> shrink_slab() on each iteration.
>
> The temptation is to supply a patch that checks if kswapd was woken for
> THP and if so ignore pgdat->kswapd_max_order but it'll be a hack and not
> backed up by proper testing. As 3.7 is very close to release and this is
> not a bug we should release with, a safer path is to revert "mm: remove
> __GFP_NO_KSWAPD" for now and revisit it with the view to ironing out the
> balance_pgdat() logic in general.
>
> Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>

Does anyone know if this is queued to go into 3.7 somewhere?  I looked
a bit and can't find it in a tree.  We have a few reports of Fedora
rawhide users hitting this.

josh

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-11-16 19:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-11  8:52 kswapd0: wxcessive CPU usage Jiri Slaby
2012-10-11 13:44 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-10-11 15:34   ` Jiri Slaby
2012-10-11 17:56     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-10-11 17:59       ` Jiri Slaby
2012-10-11 18:19         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-10-11 22:08           ` kswapd0: excessive " Jiri Slaby
2012-10-12 12:37             ` Jiri Slaby
2012-10-12 13:57               ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-15  9:54                 ` Jiri Slaby
2012-10-15 11:09                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-29 10:52                     ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-10-30 19:18                       ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-31 11:25                         ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-10-31 15:04                           ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-04 16:36                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-11-02 10:44                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-11-02 10:53                       ` Jiri Slaby
2012-11-02 19:45                         ` Jiri Slaby
2012-11-04 11:26                           ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-11-05 14:24                           ` [PATCH] Revert "mm: vmscan: scale number of pages reclaimed by reclaim/compaction based on failures" Mel Gorman
2012-11-06 10:15                             ` Johannes Hirte
2012-11-09  8:36                               ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-14 21:43                                 ` Johannes Hirte
2012-11-09  9:12                             ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-09  4:22                           ` kswapd0: excessive CPU usage Seth Jennings
2012-11-09  8:07                             ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-11-09  9:06                               ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-11  9:13                                 ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-11-12 11:37                                   ` [PATCH] Revert "mm: remove __GFP_NO_KSWAPD" Mel Gorman
2012-11-16 19:14                                     ` Josh Boyer [this message]
2012-11-16 19:51                                       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-20  1:43                                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2012-11-16 20:06                                       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20 15:38                                         ` Josh Boyer
2012-11-20 16:13                                           ` Bruno Wolff III
2012-11-20 17:43                                           ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-11-23 15:20                                             ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2012-11-27 11:12                                               ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-21 15:08                                           ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-20  9:18                                     ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-20 20:18                                       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-21  8:30                                         ` Glauber Costa
2012-11-12 12:19                                   ` kswapd0: excessive CPU usage Mel Gorman
2012-11-12 13:13                                     ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-11-12 13:31                                       ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-12 14:50                                         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-11-18 19:00                                         ` Zdenek Kabelac
2012-11-18 19:07                                           ` Jiri Slaby
2012-11-09  8:40                             ` Mel Gorman
2012-10-11 22:14 ` kswapd0: wxcessive " Andrew Morton
2012-10-11 22:26   ` Jiri Slaby

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