From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Dirty/Access bits vs. page content
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2014 20:03:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzktDDr5zNh-7gDhXW6-7_BP_MvKHEoLi9=td6XvwzaUA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5359CD7C.5020604@zytor.com>
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 7:50 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>
> The cases where they occur the mappings tend to be highly stable, i.e.
> map once *specifically* to be able to do a whole bunch of things without
> system calls, and then unmap when done.
Yes. But even that tends to be unusual. mmap() really is bad at
writing, since you inevitably get read-modify-write patterns etc. So
it's only useful for fixing up things after-the-fact, which in itself
is a horrible pattern.
Don't get me wrong - it exists, but it's really quite rare because it
has so many problems. Even people who do "fixup" kind of stuff tend to
map things privately, change things, and then write out the end
result. That way you can get atomicity by then doing a single
"rename()" at the end, for example.
The traditional case for it used to be the nntp index, and these days
I know some imap indexer (dovecot?) uses it. Every other example of it
I have ever seen has been a VM stress tester..
Linus
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2014-04-22 0:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 0:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 5:15 ` Tony Luck
2014-04-22 14:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 7:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-22 7:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-22 21:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 21:46 ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-22 22:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 22:41 ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-23 2:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-23 3:08 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-23 4:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-23 6:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-23 18:41 ` Jan Kara
2014-04-23 19:33 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-24 6:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 18:40 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24 19:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-24 20:02 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24 23:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 1:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25 2:41 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25 2:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 2:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-25 3:03 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2014-04-25 12:01 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 13:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 19:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-26 18:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 7:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 12:20 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-27 19:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-27 20:09 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-28 9:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-28 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 16:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-27 23:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25 16:54 ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-25 18:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 22:00 ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-26 3:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-26 3:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 17:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 19:13 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 16:30 ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-23 20:11 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24 8:49 ` Jan Kara
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