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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] implement SL*B and stack usercopy runtime checks
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 11:27:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFzXEoTyK0Sm-y=6xGmLMWzQiSQ7ELJ2-WL_PrP3r44MSg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110703111028.GA2862@albatros>

That patch is entirely insane. No way in hell will that ever get merged.

copy_to/from_user() is some of the most performance-critical code, and
runs a *lot*, often for fairly small structures (ie 'fstat()' etc).

Adding random ad-hoc tests to it is entirely inappropriate. Doing so
unconditionally is insane.

So NAK, NAK, NAK.

If you seriously clean it up (that at a minimum includes things like
making it configurable using some pretty helper function that just
compiles away for all the normal cases, and not writing out

   if (!slab_access_ok(to, n) || !stack_access_ok(to, n))

multiple times, for chrissake) it _might_ be acceptable.

But in its current form it's just total crap. It's exactly the kind of
"crazy security people who don't care about anything BUT security"
crap that I refuse to see.

Some balance and sanity.

                      Linus

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-03 18:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-03 11:10 Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-03 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2011-07-03 18:57   ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-03 19:10     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-07-03 19:24       ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-03 19:37         ` Joe Perches
2011-07-03 19:53           ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-06  3:39   ` Jonathan Hawthorne
2011-07-18 18:39   ` [RFC v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-18 18:52     ` Andrew Morton
2011-07-18 19:33       ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-19  7:40       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-18 19:08     ` Matt Mackall
2011-07-18 19:24       ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2011-07-18 21:18     ` Christoph Lameter
2011-07-19  6:53       ` Vasiliy Kulikov

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