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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Dirty/Access bits vs. page content
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 10:56:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFz=fwpGegGXfyWh9bh_iVM7g4q=0ywugS+sR=L+Od7j5g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.11.1404250414590.5198@eggly.anvils>

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:01 AM, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com> wrote:
>
> Two, Ben said earlier that he's more worried about users of
> unmap_mapping_range() than concurrent munmap(); and you said
> earlier that you would almost prefer to have some special lock
> to serialize with page_mkclean().
>
> Er, i_mmap_mutex.
>
> That's what unmap_mapping_range(), and page_mkclean()'s rmap_walk,
> take to iterate over the file vmas.  So perhaps there's no race at all
> in the unmap_mapping_range() case.  And easy (I imagine) to fix the
> race in Dave's racewrite.c use of MADV_DONTNEED: untested patch below.

Hmm. unmap_mapping_range() is just abotu the only thing that _does_
take i_mmap_mutex. unmap_single_vma() does it for
is_vm_hugetlb_page(), which is a bit confusing. And normally we only
take it for the actual final vma link/unlink, not for the actual
traversal. So we'd have to change that all quite radically (or we'd
have to drop and re-take it).

So I'm not quite convinced. Your simple patch looks simple and should
certainly fix DaveH's test-case, but then leaves munmap/exit as a
separate thing to fix. And I don't see how to do that cleanly (it
really looks like "we'll just have to take that semaphore again
separately).

i_mmap_mutex is likely not contended, but we *do* take it for private
mappings too (and for read-only ones), so this lock is actually much
more common than the dirty shared mapping.

So I think I prefer my patch, even if that may be partly due to just
it being mine ;)

          Linus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-04-25 17:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2014-04-22  0:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22  0:44                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22  5:15                   ` Tony Luck
2014-04-22 14:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22  7:34                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-22  7:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-22 21:36                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 21:46                       ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-22 22:08                         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-22 22:41                           ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-23  2:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-23  3:08                       ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-23  4:23                         ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-23  6:14                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-23 18:41                         ` Jan Kara
2014-04-23 19:33                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-24  6:51                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-24 18:40                               ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24 19:45                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-24 20:02                                   ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24 23:46                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25  1:37                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25  2:41                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25  2:46                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25  2:50                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-04-25  3:03                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 12:01                                                 ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 13:51                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-25 19:41                                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-26 18:07                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27  7:20                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 12:20                                                           ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-27 19:33                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 19:47                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-27 20:09                                                             ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-28  9:25                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-28 10:14                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-04-27 16:21                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-27 23:13                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-25 16:54                                                   ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-25 18:41                                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 22:00                                                       ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-26  3:11                                                         ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-26  3:48                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2014-04-25 17:56                                                   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2014-04-25 19:13                                                     ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-25 16:30                                       ` Dave Hansen
2014-04-23 20:11                           ` Hugh Dickins
2014-04-24  8:49                             ` Jan Kara

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