From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Andrea Argangeli <andrea@kernel.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm, oom: introduce oom reaper
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 11:55:11 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+55aFxkzeqtxDY8KyR_FA+WKNkQXEHVA_zO8XhW6rqRr778Zw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151217130223.GE18625@dhcp22.suse.cz>
On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 5:02 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:
> Ups. You are right. I will go with msleep_interruptible(100).
I don't think that's right.
If a signal happens, that loop is now (again) just busy-looping. That
doesn't sound right, although with the maximum limit of 10 attempts,
maybe it's fine - the thing is technically "busylooping", but it will
definitely not busy-loop for very long.
So maybe that code is fine, but I think the signal case might at least
merit a comment?
Also, if you actually do want UNINTERRUPTIBLE (no reaction to signals
at all), but don't want to be seen as being "load" on the system, you
can use TASK_IDLE, which is a combination of TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE |
TASK_NOLOAD.
Because if you sleep interruptibly, you do generally need to handle
signals (although that limit count may make it ok in this case).
There's basically three levels:
- TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE: no signal handling at all
- TASK_KILLABLE: no normal signal handling, but ok to be killed
(needs to check fatal_signal_pending() and exit)
- TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE: will react to signals
(and then that TASK_IDLE thing that is semantically the same as
uninterruptible, but doesn't count against the load average).
The main use for TASK_KILLABLE is in places where expected semantics
do not allow a EINTR return, but we know that because the process is
about to be killed, we can ignore that, for the simple reason that
nobody will ever *see* the EINTR.
Btw, I think you might want to re-run your test-case after this
change, since the whole "busy loop vs actually sleeping" might just
have changed the result..
Linus
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-17 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-15 18:36 Michal Hocko
2015-12-17 0:50 ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-17 13:02 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-17 19:55 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2015-12-17 20:00 ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-18 11:54 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-18 21:14 ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-21 8:38 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-17 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-18 12:11 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-18 12:10 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-20 7:14 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-18 0:15 ` Andrew Morton
2015-12-18 11:48 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-21 20:38 ` Paul Gortmaker
2016-01-06 9:10 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-06 14:26 ` Paul Gortmaker
2016-01-06 15:00 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-23 23:00 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-12-24 9:47 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-24 11:06 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-12-24 20:39 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-12-25 11:41 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-24 20:44 ` Ross Zwisler
2015-12-25 11:35 ` Michal Hocko
2015-12-25 11:44 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-06 15:42 [PATCH 0/2 -mm] oom reaper v4 Michal Hocko
2016-01-06 15:42 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm, oom: introduce oom reaper Michal Hocko
2016-01-07 11:23 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-01-07 12:30 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-11 22:54 ` Andrew Morton
2016-01-12 8:16 ` Michal Hocko
2016-01-28 1:28 ` David Rientjes
2016-01-28 21:42 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 3:02 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-02 8:57 ` Michal Hocko
2016-02-02 11:48 ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-02-02 22:55 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-02 22:51 ` David Rientjes
2016-02-03 10:31 ` Tetsuo Handa
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