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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	"Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Chris Kennelly <ckennelly@google.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Hugepage collapse in process context
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 10:49:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C8C89F13-3F04-456B-BA76-DE2C378D30BF@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d098c392-273a-36a4-1a29-59731cdf5d3d@google.com>

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On 16 Feb 2021, at 23:24, David Rientjes wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> Khugepaged is slow by default, it scans at most 4096 pages every 10s.
> That's normally fine as a system-wide setting, but some applications would
> benefit from a more aggressive approach (as long as they are willing to
> pay for it).
>
> Instead of adding priorities for eligible ranges of memory to khugepaged,
> temporarily speeding khugepaged up for the whole system, or sharding its
> work for memory belonging to a certain process, one approach would be to
> allow userspace to induce hugepage collapse.
>
> The benefit to this approach would be that this is done in process context
> so its cpu is charged to the process that is inducing the collapse.
> Khugepaged is not involved.
>
> Idea was to allow userspace to induce hugepage collapse through the new
> process_madvise() call.  This allows us to collapse hugepages on behalf of
> current or another process for a vectored set of ranges.
>
> This could be done through a new process_madvise() mode *or* it could be a
> flag to MADV_HUGEPAGE since process_madvise() allows for a flag parameter
> to be passed.  For example, MADV_F_SYNC.
>
> When done, this madvise call would allocate a hugepage on the right node
> and attempt to do the collapse in process context just as khugepaged would
> otherwise do.
>
> This would immediately be useful for a malloc implementation, for example,
> that has released its memory back to the system using MADV_DONTNEED and
> will subsequently refault the memory.  Rather than wait for khugepaged to
> come along 30m later, for example, and collapse this memory into a
> hugepage (which could take a much longer time on a very large system), an
> alternative would be to use this process_madvise() mode to induce the
> action up front.  In other words, say "I'm returning this memory to the
> application and it's going to be hot, so back it by a hugepage now rather
> than waiting until later."
>
> It would also be useful for read-only file-backed mappings for text
> segments.  Khugepaged should be happy, it's just less work done by generic
> kthreads that gets charged as an overall tax to everybody.
>
> Thoughts?

The idea sounds great to me.

One question on how it interacts with khugepaged: will the process be excluded
from khugepaged if this process_madvise() is used on it? Since it may save
khugepaged some additional scanning work if someone is actively collapsing
hugepages for this process.


—
Best Regards,
Yan Zi

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-02-17 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-17  4:24 David Rientjes
2021-02-17  8:21 ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18 13:43   ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-02-18 13:52     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-18 22:34       ` David Rientjes
2021-02-19 16:16         ` Zi Yan
2021-02-24  9:44         ` Alex Shi
2021-03-01 20:56           ` David Rientjes
2021-03-04 10:52             ` Alex Shi
2021-02-17 15:49 ` Zi Yan [this message]
2021-02-18  8:11 ` Song Liu
2021-02-18  8:39   ` Michal Hocko
2021-02-18  9:53     ` Song Liu
2021-02-18 10:01       ` Michal Hocko

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