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From: Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, hughd@google.com, mhocko@suse.com,
	roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com,
	harry.yoo@oracle.com, baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com,
	Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com,
	dev.jain@arm.com, baohua@kernel.org, lance.yang@linux.dev,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: thp: reparent the split queue during memcg offline
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2025 15:49:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BF7CAAA2-E42B-4D90-8E35-C5936596D4EB@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39f22c1a-705e-4e76-919a-2ca99d1ed7d6@redhat.com>

On 25 Sep 2025, at 15:35, David Hildenbrand wrote:

> On 25.09.25 08:11, Qi Zheng wrote:
>> Hi David,
>
> Hi :)
>
> [...]
>
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/mmzone.h
>>>> @@ -1346,6 +1346,7 @@ struct deferred_split {
>>>>        spinlock_t split_queue_lock;
>>>>        struct list_head split_queue;
>>>>        unsigned long split_queue_len;
>>>> +    bool is_dying;
>>>
>>> It's a bit weird to query whether the "struct deferred_split" is dying.
>>> Shouldn't this be a memcg property? (and in particular, not exist for
>>
>> There is indeed a CSS_DYING flag. But we must modify 'is_dying' under
>> the protection of the split_queue_lock, otherwise the folio may be added
>> back to the deferred_split of child memcg.
>
> Is there no way to reuse the existing mechanisms, and find a way to have the shrinker / queue locking sync against that?
>
> There is also the offline_css() function where we clear CSS_ONLINE. But it happens after calling ss->css_offline(css);

I see CSS_DYING will be set by kill_css() before offline_css() is called.
Probably the code can check CSS_DYING instead.

>
> Being able to query "is the memcg going offline" and having a way to sync against that would be probably cleanest.

So basically, something like:
1. at folio_split_queue_lock*() time, get folio’s memcg or
   its parent memcg until there is no CSS_DYING set or CSS_ONLINE is set.
2. return the associated deferred_split_queue.

>
> I'll let all the memcg people comment on how that could be done best.
>
>>
>>> the pglist_data part where it might not make sense at all?).
>>
>> Maybe:
>>
>> #ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
>>       bool is_dying;
>> #endif
>>
>
> Still doesn't quite look like it would belong here :(
>
> Also, is "dying" really the right terminology? It's more like "going offline"?
>
> But then, the queue is not going offline, the memcg is ...
>
> -- 
> Cheers
>
> David / dhildenb


Best Regards,
Yan, Zi


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-25 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-23  9:16 [PATCH v2 0/4] reparent the THP split queue Qi Zheng
2025-09-23  9:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mm: thp: replace folio_memcg() with folio_memcg_charged() Qi Zheng
2025-09-24  9:10   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-23  9:16 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mm: thp: introduce folio_split_queue_lock and its variants Qi Zheng
2025-09-23  9:16 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mm: thp: use folio_batch to handle THP splitting in deferred_split_scan() Qi Zheng
2025-09-23 15:31   ` Zi Yan
2025-09-24  9:57     ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-24 14:57       ` Zi Yan
2025-09-24 12:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-23  9:16 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mm: thp: reparent the split queue during memcg offline Qi Zheng
2025-09-23 15:44   ` Zi Yan
2025-09-24  9:58     ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-24  9:23   ` Roman Gushchin
2025-09-24 10:06     ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-24 12:38   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-25  6:11     ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-25 19:35       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-25 19:49         ` Zi Yan [this message]
2025-09-25 22:15           ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-25 22:35             ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-26  6:57               ` Qi Zheng
2025-09-26 16:36                 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-24 13:49   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-24 14:22   ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25  6:29     ` Qi Zheng

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