From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Zhu Yanhai <zhu.yanhai@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 4/9] Add memcg kswapd thread pool
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:49:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTinkJC2-HiGtxgTTo8RvRjZqYuq2pA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110422133643.6a36d838.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
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On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:24:15 -0700
> Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>
> > This patch creates a thread pool for memcg-kswapd. All memcg which needs
> > background recalim are linked to a list and memcg-kswapd picks up a memcg
> > from the list and run reclaim.
> >
> > The concern of using per-memcg-kswapd thread is the system overhead
> including
> > memory and cputime.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
>
> Thank you for merging. This seems ok to me.
>
> Further development may make this better or change thread pools (to some
> other),
> but I think this is enough good.
>
Thank you for reviewing and Acking. At the same time, I do have wondering on
the thread-pool modeling which I posted on the cover-letter :)
The per-memcg-per-kswapd model
Pros:
1. memory overhead per thread, and The memory consumption would be 8k*1000 =
8M
with 1k cgroup.
2. we see lots of threads at 'ps -elf'
Cons:
1. the implementation is simply and straigh-forward.
2. we can easily isolate the background reclaim overhead between cgroups.
3. better latency from memory pressure to actual start reclaiming
The thread-pool model
Pros:
1. there is no isolation between memcg background reclaim, since the memcg
threads
are shared.
2. it is hard for visibility and debugability. I have been experienced a lot
when
some kswapds running creazy and we need a stright-forward way to identify
which
cgroup causing the reclaim.
3. potential starvation for some memcgs, if one workitem stucks and the rest
of work
won't proceed.
Cons:
1. save some memory resource.
In general, the per-memcg-per-kswapd implmentation looks sane to me at this
point, esepcially the sharing memcg thread model will make debugging issue
very hard later.
Comments?
--Ying
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-22 4:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-22 4:24 [RFC PATCH V7 0/9] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 1/9] Add kswapd descriptor Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:31 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 4:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-22 5:55 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 2/9] Add per memcg reclaim watermarks Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 3/9] New APIs to adjust per-memcg wmarks Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:32 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 4/9] Add memcg kswapd thread pool Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:36 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 4:49 ` Ying Han [this message]
2011-04-22 5:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 5:53 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 5:59 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 6:10 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 7:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 7:59 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 8:02 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-24 23:26 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 2:08 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 6:02 ` Zhu Yanhai
2011-04-22 6:14 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 5:39 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-22 5:56 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 5/9] Infrastructure to support per-memcg reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:38 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 5:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-22 5:59 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 5:27 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-22 6:00 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 6/9] Implement the select_victim_node within memcg Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 7/9] Per-memcg background reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 6:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-22 7:54 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 8:44 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-22 18:37 ` Ying Han
2011-04-25 2:21 ` [PATCH] vmscan,memcg: memcg aware swap token KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-25 9:47 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-25 17:13 ` Ying Han
2011-04-26 2:08 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 8/9] Add per-memcg zone "unreclaimable" Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:43 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-04-22 6:13 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-04-22 6:17 ` Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:24 ` [PATCH V7 9/9] Enable per-memcg background reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-22 4:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
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