From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Hiroyuki Kamezawa <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@openvz.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Zhu Yanhai <zhu.yanhai@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add stats to monitor soft_limit reclaim
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:12:33 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTinbBfE+1dDrti1b-K9_=mM_6OTS-w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110429103038.GL6547@balbir.in.ibm.com>
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> * Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> [2011-04-28 20:28:54]:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Hiroyuki Kamezawa
>> <kamezawa.hiroyuki@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2011/4/29 Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>:
>> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>> >>> This patch extend the soft_limit reclaim stats to both global background
>> >>> reclaim and global direct reclaim.
>> >>>
>> >>> We have a thread discussing the naming of some of the stats. Both
>> >>> KAMEZAWA and Johannes posted the proposals. The following stats are based
>> >>> on what i had before that thread. I will make the corresponding change on
>> >>> the next post when we make decision.
>> >>>
>> >>> $cat /dev/cgroup/memory/A/memory.stat
>> >>> kswapd_soft_steal 1053626
>> >>> kswapd_soft_scan 1053693
>> >>> direct_soft_steal 1481810
>> >>> direct_soft_scan 1481996
>> >>>
>> >>> Signed-off-by: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
>> >>> ---
>> >>> Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt | 10 ++++-
>> >>> mm/memcontrol.c | 68 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
>> >>> 2 files changed, 58 insertions(+), 20 deletions(-)
>> >>>
>> >>> diff --git a/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt b/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
>> >>> index 0c40dab..fedc107 100644
>> >>> --- a/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
>> >>> +++ b/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
>> >>> @@ -387,8 +387,14 @@ pgpgout - # of pages paged out (equivalent to # of uncharging events).
>> >>> swap - # of bytes of swap usage
>> >>> pgfault - # of page faults.
>> >>> pgmajfault - # of major page faults.
>> >>> -soft_steal - # of pages reclaimed from global hierarchical reclaim
>> >>> -soft_scan - # of pages scanned from global hierarchical reclaim
>> >>> +soft_kswapd_steal- # of pages reclaimed in global hierarchical reclaim from
>> >>> + background reclaim
>> >>> +soft_kswapd_scan - # of pages scanned in global hierarchical reclaim from
>> >>> + background reclaim
>> >>> +soft_direct_steal- # of pages reclaimed in global hierarchical reclaim from
>> >>> + direct reclaim
>> >>> +soft_direct_scan- # of pages scanned in global hierarchical reclaim from
>> >>> + direct reclaim
>> >
>> > Thank you for CC.
>> >
>> > I don't have strong opinion but once we add interfaces to mainline,
>> > it's hard to rename them. So, it's better to make a list of what name
>> > we'll need in future.
>> >
>> > Now, your naming has a format as [Reason]-[Who reclaim]-[What count?]
>> > soft_kswapd_steal
>> > soft_kswapd_scan
>> > soft_direct_steal
>> > soft_direct_scan
>> >
>> > Ok, we can make a name for wmark and limit reclaim as
>> >
>> > limit_direct_steal/scan
>> > wmark_bg_steal/scan
>> >
>> > Then, assume we finally do round-robin scan of memcg regardless of softlimit by
>> > removing global LRU, what name do we have ? Hmm,
>> >
>> > kernel_kswapd_scan/steal
>> > kernel_direct_scan/steal
>> >
>> > ?
>>
>> Johannes has the proposal to separate out reclaims on the memcg
>> internally and externally. And then apply the format
>> [Reason]-[Who reclaim]-[What count?], also i added the 4th item .
>>
>> 1. when the memcg hits its hard_limit
>> > limit_direct_steal
>> > limit_direct_scan
>>
>> 2. when the memcg hits its wmark
>> > wmark_kswapd_steal
>> > wmark_kswapd_scan
>>
>> 3. the global direct reclaim triggers soft_limit pushback
>> > soft_direct_steal
>> > soft_direct_scan
>>
>> 4. hierarchy-triggered direct reclaim
>> > limit_hierarchy_steal
>> > limit_hierarchy_scan
>>
>> 5. the global bg reclaim triggers soft_limit pushback
>> > soft_kswapd_steal
>> > soft_kswapd_scan
>>
>
> I like these names, but these are more developer friendly than end
> user friendly.
Thank you for reviewing. One thing that I can think of to help is
better documentation. :)
--Ying
Thank you
>
> --
> Three Cheers,
> Balbir
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-29 19:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-28 22:37 [PATCH 0/2] memcg: add the soft_limit reclaim in global direct reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-28 22:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add " Ying Han
2011-04-28 23:25 ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 10:26 ` Balbir Singh
2011-04-29 17:42 ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 13:05 ` Michal Hocko
2011-04-29 17:44 ` Ying Han
2011-05-02 7:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-04-28 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add stats to monitor soft_limit reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-28 23:26 ` Ying Han
2011-04-28 23:51 ` Hiroyuki Kamezawa
2011-04-29 3:28 ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 10:30 ` Balbir Singh
2011-04-29 19:12 ` Ying Han [this message]
2011-04-28 23:24 ` [PATCH 0/2] memcg: add the soft_limit reclaim in global direct reclaim Ying Han
2011-04-29 10:23 ` Balbir Singh
2011-04-29 17:17 ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 16:44 ` Minchan Kim
2011-04-29 17:19 ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 17:48 ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 18:58 ` Ying Han
2011-04-29 23:20 ` Minchan Kim
2011-04-29 23:41 ` Ying Han
2011-04-30 1:33 ` Ying Han
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