From: Nancy Yuen <yuenn@google.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Stefan Assmann <sassmann@kpanic.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
tony.luck@intel.com, andi@firstfloor.org, mingo@elte.hu,
rick@vanrein.org, rdunlap@xenotime.net,
Michael Ditto <mditto@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/3] support for broken memory modules (BadRAM)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:01:50 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTinMrMcDw8KX3BxmZh12-kULmecT-s9gdRGpYUCfNjFO7Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E0230CD.1030505@zytor.com>
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:13, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
> On 06/22/2011 11:00 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> :
>> : Second, the BadRAM patch expands the address patterns from the command
>> : line into individual entries in the kernel's e820 table. The e820
>> : table is a fixed buffer that supports a very small, hard coded number
>> : of entries (128). We require a much larger number of entries (on
>> : the order of a few thousand), so much of the google kernel patch deals
>> : with expanding the e820 table.
>
> This has not been true for a long time.
Good point. There's the MAX_NODES that expands it, though it's still
hard coded, and as I understand, intended for NUMA node entries. We
need anywhere from 8K to 64K 'bad' entries. This creates holes and
translates to twice as many entries in the e820. We only want to
allow this memory if it's needed, instead of hard coding it.
>
>> I have a couple of thoughts here:
>>
>> - If this patchset is merged and a major user such as google is
>> unable to use it and has to continue to carry a separate patch then
>> that's a regrettable situation for the upstream kernel.
>>
>> - Google's is, afaik, the largest use case we know of: zillions of
>> machines for a number of years. And this real-world experience tells
>> us that the badram patchset has shortcomings. Shortcomings which we
>> can expect other users to experience.
>>
>> So. What are your thoughts on these issues?
>
> I think a binary structure fed as a linked list data object makes a lot
> more sense. We already support feeding e820 entries in this way,
> bypassing the 128-entry limitation of the fixed table in the zeropage.
>
> The main issue then is priority; in particular memory marked UNUSABLE
> (type 5) in the fed-in e820 map will of course overlap entries with
> normal RAM (type 1) information in the native map; we need to make sure
> that the type 5 information takes priority.
>
> -hpa
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-22 19:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-22 11:18 Stefan Assmann
2011-06-22 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] Add string parsing function get_next_ulong Stefan Assmann
2011-06-22 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] support for broken memory modules (BadRAM) Stefan Assmann
2011-06-22 11:18 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] Add documentation and credits for BadRAM Stefan Assmann
2011-06-22 18:00 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] support for broken memory modules (BadRAM) Andrew Morton
2011-06-22 18:06 ` Josh Boyer
2011-06-22 18:09 ` Randy Dunlap
2011-06-22 18:11 ` Nancy Yuen
2011-06-22 18:13 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-22 19:01 ` Nancy Yuen [this message]
2011-06-22 19:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-22 18:24 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-22 18:38 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-22 18:56 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-22 19:05 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-22 19:15 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-22 20:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-22 20:28 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-22 19:46 ` [PATCH] x86: e820: Eliminate bubble sort from sanitize_e820_map Mike Ditto
2011-06-22 20:18 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] support for broken memory modules (BadRAM) Stefan Assmann
2011-06-23 10:33 ` Rick van Rein
2011-06-23 10:49 ` Rick van Rein
2011-06-23 10:10 ` Rick van Rein
2011-06-22 18:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-22 20:30 ` Stefan Assmann
2011-06-22 20:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-23 13:39 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-23 14:08 ` Stefan Assmann
2011-06-23 14:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2011-06-23 15:37 ` Stefan Assmann
2011-06-23 16:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-24 0:59 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-23 17:00 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-23 17:12 ` Luck, Tony
2011-06-24 1:03 ` Craig Bergstrom
2011-06-24 1:08 ` Andi Kleen
2011-06-24 1:22 ` Craig Bergstrom
2011-06-24 8:05 ` Rick van Rein
2011-06-24 14:34 ` Craig Bergstrom
2011-06-24 16:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-06-24 16:40 ` Luck, Tony
2011-06-24 16:56 ` Rick van Rein
2011-06-24 17:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
[not found] <fa.fHPNPTsllvyE/7DxrKwiwgVbVww@ifi.uio.no>
2011-06-24 21:10 ` Shane Nay
2011-06-28 2:33 ` Craig Bergstrom
2011-06-29 8:08 ` Rick van Rein
2011-06-29 15:28 ` craig lkml
2011-06-29 16:06 ` Craig Bergstrom
2011-06-29 21:24 ` Tony Luck
2011-06-30 14:32 ` Jody Belka
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2011-06-21 9:23 Stefan Assmann
2011-06-21 22:02 ` Andrew Morton
2011-06-22 11:11 ` Stefan Assmann
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