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From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: add pgfault latency histograms
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 18:40:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTimSXrqPudRZ=af9N7k+Z=p5V+nxHQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110527093142.d3733053.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:31 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 May 2011 17:23:20 -0700
> Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 5:05 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
>> kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 26 May 2011 14:07:49 -0700
>> > Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > This adds histogram to capture pagefault latencies on per-memcg basis. I
>> > used
>> > > this patch on the memcg background reclaim test, and figured there could
>> > be more
>> > > usecases to monitor/debug application performance.
>> > >
>> > > The histogram is composed 8 bucket in ns unit. The last one is infinite
>> > (inf)
>> > > which is everything beyond the last one. To be more flexible, the buckets
>> > can
>> > > be reset and also each bucket is configurable at runtime.
>> > >
>> > > memory.pgfault_histogram: exports the histogram on per-memcg basis and
>> > also can
>> > > be reset by echoing "reset". Meantime, all the buckets are writable by
>> > echoing
>> > > the range into the API. see the example below.
>> > >
>> > > /proc/sys/vm/pgfault_histogram: the global sysfs tunablecan be used to
>> > turn
>> > > on/off recording the histogram.
>> > >
>> > > Functional Test:
>> > > Create a memcg with 10g hard_limit, running dd & allocate 8g anon page.
>> > > Measure the anon page allocation latency.
>> > >
>> > > $ mkdir /dev/cgroup/memory/B
>> > > $ echo 10g >/dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.limit_in_bytes
>> > > $ echo $$ >/dev/cgroup/memory/B/tasks
>> > > $ dd if=/dev/zero of=/export/hdc3/dd/tf0 bs=1024 count=20971520 &
>> > > $ allocate 8g anon pages
>> > >
>> > > $ echo 1 >/proc/sys/vm/pgfault_histogram
>> > >
>> > > $ cat /dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> > > pgfault latency histogram (ns):
>> > > < 600            2051273
>> > > < 1200           40859
>> > > < 2400           4004
>> > > < 4800           1605
>> > > < 9600           170
>> > > < 19200          82
>> > > < 38400          6
>> > > < inf            0
>> > >
>> > > $ echo reset >/dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> > > $ cat /dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> > > pgfault latency histogram (ns):
>> > > < 600            0
>> > > < 1200           0
>> > > < 2400           0
>> > > < 4800           0
>> > > < 9600           0
>> > > < 19200          0
>> > > < 38400          0
>> > > < inf            0
>> > >
>> > > $ echo 500 520 540 580 600 1000 5000
>> > >/dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> > > $ cat /dev/cgroup/memory/B/memory.pgfault_histogram
>> > > pgfault latency histogram (ns):
>> > > < 500            50
>> > > < 520            151
>> > > < 540            3715
>> > > < 580            1859812
>> > > < 600            202241
>> > > < 1000           25394
>> > > < 5000           5875
>> > > < inf            186
>> > >
>> > > Performance Test:
>> > > I ran through the PageFaultTest (pft) benchmark to measure the overhead
>> > of
>> > > recording the histogram. There is no overhead observed on both
>> > "flt/cpu/s"
>> > > and "fault/wsec".
>> > >
>> > > $ mkdir /dev/cgroup/memory/A
>> > > $ echo 16g >/dev/cgroup/memory/A/memory.limit_in_bytes
>> > > $ echo $$ >/dev/cgroup/memory/A/tasks
>> > > $ ./pft -m 15g -t 8 -T a
>> > >
>> > > Result:
>> > > "fault/wsec"
>> > >
>> > > $ ./ministat no_histogram histogram
>> > > x no_histogram
>> > > + histogram
>> > >
>> > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> > >    N           Min           Max        Median           Avg
>> >  Stddev
>> > > x   5     813404.51     824574.98      821661.3     820470.83
>> > 4202.0758
>> > > +   5     821228.91     825894.66     822874.65     823374.15
>> > 1787.9355
>> > >
>> > > "flt/cpu/s"
>> > >
>> > > $ ./ministat no_histogram histogram
>> > > x no_histogram
>> > > + histogram
>> > >
>> > +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>> > >    N           Min           Max        Median           Avg
>> >  Stddev
>> > > x   5     104951.93     106173.13     105142.73      105349.2
>> > 513.78158
>> > > +   5     104697.67      105416.1     104943.52     104973.77
>> > 269.24781
>> > > No difference proven at 95.0% confidence
>> > >
>> > > Signed-off-by: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
>> >
>> > Hmm, interesting....but isn't it very very very complicated interface ?
>> > Could you make this for 'perf' ? Then, everyone (including someone who
>> > don't use memcg)
>> > will be happy.
>> >
>>
>> Thank you for looking at it.
>>
>> There is only one per-memcg API added which is basically exporting the
>> histogram. The "reset" and reconfiguring the bucket is not "must" but make
>> it more flexible. Also, the sysfs API can be reduced if necessary since
>> there is no over-head observed by always turning it on anyway.
>>
>> I am not familiar w/ perf, any suggestions how it is supposed to be look
>> like?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
> IIUC, you can record "all" latency information by perf record. Then, latency
> information can be dumped out to some file.
>
> You can add a python? script for perf as
>
>  # perf report memory-reclaim-latency-histgram -f perf.data
>                -o 500,1000,1500,2000.....
>   ...show histgram in text.. or report the histgram in graphic.
>
> Good point is
>  - you can reuse perf.data and show histgram from another point of view.
>
>  - you can show another cut of view, for example, I think you can write a
>    parser to show "changes in hisgram by time", easily.
>    You may able to generate a movie ;)
>
>  - Now, perf cgroup is supported. Then,
>    - you can see per task histgram
>    - you can see per cgroup histgram
>    - you can see per system-wide histgram
>      (If you record latency of usual kswapd/alloc_pages)
>
>  - If you record latency within shrink_zone(), you can show per-zone
>    reclaim latency histgram. record parsers can gather them and
>    show histgram. This will be benefical to cpuset users.
>
>
> I'm sorry if I miss something.

After study a bit on perf, it is not feasible in this casecase. The
cpu & memory overhead of perf is overwhelming.... Each page fault will
generate a record in the buffer and how many data we can record in the
buffer, and how many data will be processed later.. Most of the data
that is recorded by the general perf framework is not needed here.

On the other hand, the memory consumption is very little in this
patch. We only need to keep a counter of each bucket and the recording
can go on as long as the machine is up. As also measured, there is no
overhead of the data collection :)

So, the perf is not an option for this purpose.

--Ying

>
> Thanks,
> -Kame
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-27  1:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-26 21:07 Ying Han
2011-05-27  0:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-27  0:23   ` Ying Han
2011-05-27  0:31     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-27  1:40       ` Ying Han [this message]
2011-05-27  2:11         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-27  4:45           ` Ying Han
2011-05-27  5:41             ` Ying Han
2011-05-27  8:33             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-27 18:46               ` Ying Han
2011-05-28 10:17         ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-31 16:51           ` Ying Han
2011-05-27  8:04 ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-27 16:27   ` Ying Han

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