From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rfc patch 0/6] mm: memcg naturalization
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:53:04 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BANLkTiky6=xwqb_ML1wg=8Gg=BO0nmeUog@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110513072043.GE18610@cmpxchg.org>
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On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:20 AM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:53:37AM -0700, Ying Han wrote:
> > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Here is a patch series that is a result of the memcg discussions on
> > > LSF (memcg-aware global reclaim, global lru removal, struct
> > > page_cgroup reduction, soft limit implementation) and the recent
> > > feature discussions on linux-mm.
> > >
> > > The long-term idea is to have memcgs no longer bolted to the side of
> > > the mm code, but integrate it as much as possible such that there is a
> > > native understanding of containers, and that the traditional !memcg
> > > setup is just a singular group. This series is an approach in that
> > > direction.
>
This sounds like a good long term plan. Now I would wonder should we take it
step by step by doing:
1. improving the existing soft_limit reclaim from RB-tree based to link-list
based, also in a round_robin fashion.
We can keep the existing APIs but only changing the underlying
implementation of mem_cgroup_soft_limit_reclaim()
2. remove the global lru list after the first one being proved to be
efficient.
3. then have better integration of memcg reclaim to the mm code.
--Ying
> > >
> > > It is a rather early snapshot, WIP, barely tested etc., but I wanted
> > > to get your opinions before further pursuing it. It is also part of
> > > my counter-argument to the proposals of adding memcg-reclaim-related
> > > user interfaces at this point in time, so I wanted to push this out
> > > the door before things are merged into .40.
> > >
> >
> > The memcg-reclaim-related user interface I assume was the watermark
> > configurable tunable we were talking about in the per-memcg
> > background reclaim patch. I think we got some agreement to remove
> > the watermark tunable at the first step. But the newly added
> > memory.soft_limit_async_reclaim as you proposed seems to be a usable
> > interface.
>
> Actually, I meant the soft limit reclaim statistics. There is a
> comment about that in the 6/6 changelog.
>
Ok get it now. I will move the discussion to that thread.
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-05-12 14:53 Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 14:53 ` [rfc patch 1/6] memcg: remove unused retry signal from reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 15:02 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-12 17:22 ` Ying Han
2011-05-12 23:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-13 9:23 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-12 14:53 ` [rfc patch 2/6] vmscan: make distinction between memcg reclaim and LRU list selection Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 15:33 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-12 16:03 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-17 6:38 ` Ying Han
2011-05-17 8:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 23:50 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-13 6:58 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-16 22:36 ` Andrew Morton
2011-05-12 14:53 ` [rfc patch 3/6] mm: memcg-aware global reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 16:04 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-12 19:19 ` Ying Han
2011-05-13 7:08 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-13 0:04 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-13 7:18 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-13 0:40 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-05-13 6:54 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-13 9:53 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-13 10:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-13 11:02 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-12 14:53 ` [rfc patch 4/6] memcg: reclaim statistics Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 19:33 ` Ying Han
2011-05-16 23:10 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-17 0:20 ` Ying Han
2011-05-17 7:42 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-17 13:55 ` Rik van Riel
2011-05-12 14:53 ` [rfc patch 5/6] memcg: remove global LRU list Johannes Weiner
2011-05-13 9:53 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-13 10:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-13 11:01 ` Michal Hocko
2011-05-12 14:53 ` [rfc patch 6/6] memcg: rework soft limit reclaim Johannes Weiner
2011-05-12 18:41 ` Ying Han
2011-05-12 18:53 ` [rfc patch 0/6] mm: memcg naturalization Ying Han
2011-05-13 7:20 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-17 0:53 ` Ying Han [this message]
2011-05-17 8:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-17 14:45 ` Ying Han
2011-05-16 10:30 ` Balbir Singh
2011-05-16 10:57 ` Johannes Weiner
2011-05-17 6:32 ` Balbir Singh
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