On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:46 AM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:10:58 -0700
> Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
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> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:59 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
> > kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 22:53:19 -0700
> > > Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:00 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
> > > > kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:49:04 -0700
> > > > > Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:36 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <
> > > > > > kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>
> > > add a counter for kswapd-scan and kswapd-reclaim, kswapd-pickup will
> show
> > > you information, if necessary it's good to show some latecy stat. I
> think
> > > we can add enough information by adding stats (or debug by perf tools.)
> > > I'll consider this a a bit more.
> > >
> >
> > Something like "kswapd_pgscan" and "kswapd_steal" per memcg? If we are
> going
> > to the thread-pool, we definitely need to add more stats to give us
> enough
> > visibility of per-memcg background reclaim activity. Still, not sure
> about
> > the cpu-cycles.
> >
>
> BTW, Kosaki requeted me not to have private thread pool implementation and
> use workqueue. I think he is right. So, I'd like to write a patch to
> enhance
> workqueue for using it for memcg (Of couse, I'll make a private workqueue.)
>
> Hmm. Can you give a bit more details of the logic behind? and what's about
the private workqueue? Also, how
we plan to solve the better debug-ability issue.


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> ==
> 2. regarding to the alternative workqueue, which is more complicated and we
> need to be very careful of work items in the workqueue. We've experienced
> in
> one workitem stucks and the rest of the work item won't proceed. For
> example
> in dirty page writeback, one heavily writer cgroup could starve the other
> cgroups from flushing dirty pages to the same disk. In the kswapd case, I
> can
> imagine we might have similar senario. How to prioritize the workitems is
> another problem. The order of adding the workitems in the queue reflects
> the
> order of cgroups being reclaimed. We don't have that restriction currently
> but
> relying on the cpu scheduler to put kswapd on the right cpu-core to run. We
> "might" introduce priority later for reclaim and how are we gonna deal with
> that.
> ==
>
> From this, I feel I need to use unbound workqueue. BTW, with patches for
> current thread pool model, I think starvation problem by dirty pages
> cannot be seen.
> Anyway, I'll give a try.
>

Then do you suggest me to wait for your patch for my next post?

--Ying

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> Thanks,
> -Kame
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