From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] Add kswapd descriptor.
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:40:16 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTina1A0jFuSZhP8bkOMgHOvo1Fa-0VyoW2zjaoPM@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101130175443.f01f4d09.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 12:54 AM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:27:10 +0900
> KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 17:15:37 +0900
>> Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Ideally, I hope we unify global and memcg of kswapd for easy
>> > maintainance if it's not a big problem.
>> > When we make patches about lru pages, we always have to consider what
>> > I should do for memcg.
>> > And when we review patches, we also should consider what the patch is
>> > missing for memcg.
>> > It makes maintainance cost big. Of course, if memcg maintainers is
>> > involved with all patches, it's no problem as it is.
>> >
>> I know it's not. But thread control of kswapd will not have much merging point.
>> And balance_pgdat() is fully replaced in patch/3. The effort for merging seems
>> not big.
I intended to separate out the logic of per-memcg kswapd logics and
not having it
interfere with existing code. This should help for merging.
>>
>
> kswapd's balance_pgdat() is for following
> - reclaim pages within a node.
> - balancing zones in a pgdat.
>
> memcg's background reclaim needs followings.
> - reclaim pages within a memcg
> - reclaim pages from arbitrary zones, if it's fair, it's good.
> But it's not important from which zone the pages are reclaimed from.
> (I'm not sure we can select "the oldest" pages from divided LRU.)
The current implementation is simple, which it iterates all the nodes
and reclaims pages from the per-memcg-per-zone LRU. As long as the
wmarks is ok, the kswapd is done. Meanwhile, in order to not wasting
cputime on "unreclaimable: nodes ( a node is unreclaimable if all the
zones are unreclaimable), I used the nodemask to record that from the
last scan, and the bit is reset as long as a page is returned back.
This is a similar logic used in the global kswapd.
A potential improvement is to remember the last node we reclaimed
from, and starting from the next node for the next kswapd wake_up.
This avoids the case all the memcg kswapds are reclaiming from the
small node ids on large numa machines.
>
> Then, merging will put 2 _very_ different functionalities into 1 function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-30 20:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-30 6:49 [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] Add kswapd descriptor Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:08 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:15 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-30 8:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:54 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:40 ` Ying Han [this message]
2010-11-30 23:46 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:15 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 6:24 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:59 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 8:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:26 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 20:17 ` Ying Han
2010-12-01 0:12 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 6:52 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 19:21 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 12:33 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-07 17:28 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 0:39 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 1:24 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 1:28 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 2:10 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 2:13 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 12:19 ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-08 7:21 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-07 18:50 ` Ying Han
2010-12-08 7:22 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-08 7:37 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] Add per cgroup reclaim watermarks Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:44 ` Ying Han
2010-12-01 0:27 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 14:56 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] Per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:51 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 8:07 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 22:01 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 22:00 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 2:25 ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 5:21 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-01 2:18 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-01 2:16 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 6:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add more per memcg stats Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:53 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 18:22 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 6:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 7:03 ` Ying Han
2010-12-02 14:41 ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 2:29 ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 7:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 9:05 ` Ying Han
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