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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	pageexec@freemail.hu, Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>,
	Eugene Teo <eteo@redhat.com>,
	Brad Spengler <spender@grsecurity.net>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>,
	Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] exec: unify compat_do_execve() code
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:55:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTinFVCR_znYtyVuJcjFQq_fgMp+ozbSz54UKzvQ_@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110226123731.GC4416@redhat.com>

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>>   typedef union {
>>      compat_uptr_t compat;
>>      const char __user *native;
>>    } conditional_user_ptr_t;
>
> Personally I don't really like this union, to me "void __user*" looks
> better, but I won't insist.

Umm. "void __user *" may look simpler/better, but it's WRONG.

Using "const char __user *const __user *" is correct - but only for
the non-compat case.

And using "void __user *" may result in compiling code, but it will
have lost all actual information about the type. We don't do that in
the kernel if we can avoid it, because "void *" basically does no type
checking. Sure, sometimes it's the only thing we can do, but _if_ we
have a type, we should use it.

And that "union" really is the true type. You are passing a user
pointer down that can be either of those members.

So if you think it looks ugly, then you shouldn't do that "conditional
compat argument at run-time at all". Because the real ugliness of the
type comes not from the type, but from the fact that you pass a
pointer that can contain two different things.


> Once again, to me "void __user*" looks better (just simpler). In this
> case get_arg_ptr() becomes (without const/__user for the clarity)

No.

I simply won't apply that. It's WRONG. It's wrong because you've
dropped all the type information.

With the right union,

>        void *get_arg_ptr(void **argv, int argc, bool compat)
>        {
>                char *ptr;
>
>        #ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
>                if (unlikely(compat)) {
>                        compat_uptr_t *a = argv;
>                        compat_uptr_t p;
>
>                        if (get_user(p, a + argc))
>                                return ERR_PTR(-EFAULT);
>
>                        return compat_ptr(p);
>                }
>        #endif
>
>                if (get_user(ptr, &argv. + argc))
>                        return ERR_PTR(-EFAULT);
>
>                return ptr;
>        }
>
> Otherwise, get_arg_ptr() should return conditional_user_ptr_t as well,

No it shouldn't. The get_arg_ptr() should always just return the
actual pointer. It will have _resolved_ the ambiguity! That's what the
"compat_ptr()" thing does in the return case inside teh CONFIG_COMPAT.

So the correct way to do this is something like the following (yeah,
maybe I got the syntax wrong, I didn't test this, I just wrote it in
my MUA):

       void *get_arg_ptr(const union compat_ptr_union __user *argv,
int argc, bool compat)
       {
               char *ptr;

        #ifdef CONFIG_COMPAT
               if (unlikely(compat)) {
                       compat_uptr_t p;

                       if (get_user(p, &argv->compat + argc))
                               return ERR_PTR(-EFAULT);

                       return compat_ptr(p);
               }
        #endif

               if (get_user(ptr, &argv->noncompat +argc))
                       return ERR_PTR(-EFAULT);

               return ptr;
       }

and notice how it gets the types right, and it even has one line LESS
than your version, exactly because it gets the types right and doesn't
need that implied cast in your

     compat_uptr_t *a = argv;

(in fact, I think your version needs an _explicit_ cast in order to
not get a warning: you can't just cast "void **" to something else).

See? The advantage of the union is that the types are correct, which
means that the casts are unnecessary.

The advantage of the union is also that you see what is going on, and
it's clear from the function prototype that this doesn't just take a
random user pointer, it takes a user pointer to something that can be
two different types.

See? Correct typing is important.

                            Linus

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-26 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-25  3:26 [resend][PATCH 1/4] oom: remove totalpage normalization from oom_badness() KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25  3:27 ` [resend][PATCH 2/4] Revert "oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable" KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 20:40   ` David Rientjes
2010-10-26 13:01     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-26 19:37       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-01  7:06         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-01 19:36           ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09  2:26             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-09  3:28               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15  0:24                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15  9:59                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 23:33               ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 23:35                 ` Alan Cox
2010-11-09 23:48                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-09 23:55                     ` [patch] oom: document obsolete oom_adj tunable David Rientjes
2010-11-15  0:22                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-15 10:38                         ` David Rientjes
2010-11-23  7:16                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14  5:07                 ` [resend][PATCH 2/4] Revert "oom: deprecate oom_adj tunable" KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-14 21:39                   ` David Rientjes
2010-11-23  7:16                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-28  1:41                       ` David Rientjes
2010-11-30 13:03                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 20:07                           ` David Rientjes
2010-10-25  3:28 ` [resend][PATCH 3/4] move cred_guard_mutex from task_struct to signal_struct KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 17:26   ` Roland McGrath
2010-10-25 17:42     ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-10-25 17:51       ` Roland McGrath
2010-10-26 13:04         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-26 13:18           ` Roland McGrath
2010-10-25  3:29 ` [resend][PATCH 4/4] oom: don't ignore rss in nascent mm KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 11:28   ` pageexec
2010-10-26  7:25     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 14:34   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-24  0:24     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-24 11:09       ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-25 11:06         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-25 14:02           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-25 19:36             ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-29  5:25               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-29 11:33                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-29 18:23                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 19:54                     ` [PATCH 0/2] exec: more excessive argument size fixes for 2.6.37/stable Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 19:55                       ` [PATCH 1/2] exec: make argv/envp memory visible to oom-killer Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-01  0:12                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-01 18:07                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 19:56                       ` [PATCH 2/2] exec: copy-and-paste the fixes into compat_do_execve() paths Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-01  3:04                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30 20:00                       ` [PATCH 0/4] exec: unify compat/non-compat code Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 20:00                         ` [PATCH 1/4] exec: introduce get_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 20:01                         ` [PATCH 2/4] exec: introduce "bool compat" argument Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 20:01                         ` [PATCH 3/4] exec: unify compat_do_execve() code Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-01 17:37                           ` (No subject header) Milton Miller
2010-12-01 18:27                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:52                               ` [PATCH 0/4 RESEND] exec: unify compat/non-compat code Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:52                                 ` [PATCH 1/5] exec: introduce get_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:52                                 ` [PATCH 2/5] exec: introduce "bool compat" argument Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 18:57                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-26 12:37                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:53                                 ` [PATCH 3/5] exec: unify compat_do_execve() code Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 19:10                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-26 12:37                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-26 12:57                                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-26 15:55                                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2011-02-26 17:44                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:47                                           ` [PATCH v2 0/5] exec: unify native/compat code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:48                                             ` [PATCH v2 1/5] exec: introduce get_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:48                                             ` [PATCH v2 2/5] exec: introduce "bool compat" argument Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:48                                             ` [PATCH v2 3/5] exec: introduce conditional_user_ptr_t Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:49                                             ` [PATCH v2 4/5] exec: unify do_execve/compat_do_execve code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 20:49                                             ` [PATCH v2 5/5] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-01 21:39                                             ` [PATCH v2 0/5] exec: unify native/compat code Linus Torvalds
2011-03-02 16:26                                               ` [PATCH v3 0/4] " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-02 16:27                                                 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] exec: introduce get_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03  3:01                                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-03 15:47                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03 16:07                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-05 20:30                                                         ` [PATCH v4 0/4] exec: unify native/compat code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:31                                                           ` [PATCH v4 1/4] exec: introduce get_user_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:31                                                           ` [PATCH v4 2/4] exec: introduce struct user_arg_ptr Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:31                                                           ` [PATCH v4 3/4] exec: unify do_execve/compat_do_execve code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:52                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-05 21:20                                                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-05 20:31                                                           ` [PATCH v4 4/4] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 12:04                                                           ` [PATCH v4 0/4] exec: unify native/compat code KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-06 17:01                                                             ` [PATCH v5 " Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 17:02                                                               ` [PATCH v5 1/4] exec: introduce get_user_arg_ptr() helper Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 17:02                                                               ` [PATCH v5 2/4] exec: introduce struct user_arg_ptr Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 17:02                                                               ` [PATCH v5 3/4] exec: unify do_execve/compat_do_execve code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-06 17:03                                                               ` [PATCH v5 4/4] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-02 16:27                                                 ` [PATCH v3 2/4] exec: introduce struct conditional_ptr Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03  3:08                                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-02 16:27                                                 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] exec: unify do_execve/compat_do_execve code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03  3:13                                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-02 16:28                                                 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-03  3:09                                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-03-02 16:44                                                 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] exec: unify native/compat code Oleg Nesterov
2011-03-02 18:00                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-02 19:40                                                     ` David Miller
2011-03-02 19:48                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2011-03-02 19:54                                                         ` David Miller
2011-02-25 17:53                                 ` [PATCH 4/5] exec: unexport acct_arg_size() and get_arg_page() Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 17:54                                 ` [PATCH 5/5] exec: document acct_arg_size() Oleg Nesterov
2011-02-25 18:54                                 ` [PATCH 0/4 RESEND] exec: unify compat/non-compat code Linus Torvalds
2011-02-26 12:35                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-11-30 20:01                         ` [PATCH 4/4] exec: unexport acct_arg_size() and get_arg_page() Oleg Nesterov
2010-12-01  3:09                         ` [PATCH 0/4] exec: unify compat/non-compat code KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30  0:06                   ` [resend][PATCH 4/4] oom: don't ignore rss in nascent mm KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-25 20:37 ` [resend][PATCH 1/4] oom: remove totalpage normalization from oom_badness() David Rientjes

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