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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Cc: "Wu, Fengguang" <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: Deadlock possibly caused by too_many_isolated.
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 16:34:32 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTimQzT3SYf0LMqEH8Bfta2gnvVjWCHRj=kmb_4Z7@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101019071534.GA15105@sli10-conroe.sh.intel.com>

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:21:45AM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:09:29AM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>> > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 10:52:47AM +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> > >> Hi Wu,
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>> > >> >> @@ -2054,10 +2069,11 @@ rebalance:
>> > >> >>                 goto got_pg;
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>         /*
>> > >> >> -        * If we failed to make any progress reclaiming, then we are
>> > >> >> -        * running out of options and have to consider going OOM
>> > >> >> +        * If we failed to make any progress reclaiming and there aren't
>> > >> >> +        * many parallel reclaiming, then we are unning out of options and
>> > >> >> +        * have to consider going OOM
>> > >> >>          */
>> > >> >> -       if (!did_some_progress) {
>> > >> >> +       if (!did_some_progress && !too_many_isolated_zone(preferred_zone)) {
>> > >> >>                 if ((gfp_mask & __GFP_FS) && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_NORETRY)) {
>> > >> >>                         if (oom_killer_disabled)
>> > >> >>                                 goto nopage;
>> > >> >
>> > >> > This is simply wrong.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > It disabled this block for 99% system because there won't be enough
>> > >> > tasks to make (!too_many_isolated_zone == true). As a result the LRU
>> > >> > will be scanned like mad and no task get OOMed when it should be.
>> > >>
>> > >> If !too_many_isolated_zone is false, it means there are already many
>> > >> direct reclaiming tasks.
>> > >> So they could exit reclaim path and !too_many_isolated_zone will be true.
>> > >> What am I missing now?
>> > >
>> > > Ah sorry, my brain get short circuited.. but I still feel uneasy with
>> > > this change. It's not fixing the root cause and won't prevent too many
>> > > LRU pages be isolated. It's too late to test too_many_isolated_zone()
>> > > after direct reclaim returns (after sleeping for a long time).
>> > >
>> >
>> > Intend to agree.
>> > I think root cause is a infinite looping in too_many_isolated holding FS lock.
>> > Would it be simple that too_many_isolated would be bail out after some try?
>> I'm wondering if we need too_many_isolated_zone logic. The do_try_to_free_pages
>> will return progress till all zones are unreclaimable. Assume before this we
>> don't oomkiller. If the direct reclaim fails but has progress, it will sleep.
> Not sure if this is clear. What I mean is we can delete too_many_isolated_zone,
> do_try_to_free_pages can still return 1 till all zones are unreclaimable. Before
> this direct reclaim will not oom, because it sees progress and will call congestion_wait
> to sleep. Am I missing anything?
>

You mean could we remove too_many_isolated? not too_many_isolated_zone. Right?
It it is, we can't.

Your saying is right.
do_try_to_free_pages can return 1 until all zones are unreclaimable.
But If we remove throttling logic which is too_many_isolated, too many
process can enter direct reclaim path and they can increase
zone->pages_scanned while zone_reclaimable pages are decreased by
isolation. At last, we could reach all zones are unreclaimable much
faster.




-- 
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-19  7:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-14 23:11 Neil Brown
2010-09-15  0:30 ` Rik van Riel
2010-09-15  2:23   ` Neil Brown
2010-09-15  2:37     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  2:54       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  3:06         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  3:13           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  3:18             ` Shaohua Li
2010-09-15  3:31               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  3:17           ` Neil Brown
2010-09-15  3:47             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  8:28     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-15  8:44       ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18  4:14         ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18  5:04           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-18 10:58           ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-18 23:11             ` Neil Brown
2010-10-19  8:43               ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-19 10:06                 ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20  5:57                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20  7:05                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-20  9:27                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20 13:03                         ` Jens Axboe
2010-10-22  5:37                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-22  8:07                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-22  8:09                               ` Jens Axboe
2010-10-24 16:52                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-25  6:40                                   ` Neil Brown
2010-10-25  7:26                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20  7:25                     ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20  9:01                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-20 10:07                         ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20 14:23                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-20 15:35                         ` Torsten Kaiser
2010-10-20 23:31                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-18 16:15           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-18 21:58             ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-18 22:31               ` Neil Brown
2010-10-18 22:41                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-19  0:57                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  1:15                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  1:21                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  1:32                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  2:03                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  2:16                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  2:54                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  2:35                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19  2:52                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  3:05                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19  3:09                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  3:13                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  5:11                                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-10-19  3:21                               ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-19  7:15                                 ` Shaohua Li
2010-10-19  7:34                                   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-10-19  2:24                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-19  2:37                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-10-19  2:37                     ` Minchan Kim

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