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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	"Luis Claudio R. Goncalves" <lclaudio@uudg.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	williams@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] oom-kill: give the dying task a higher priority
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:30:49 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTilimqXmhOSEvL7DKW9rmsczkv-u2p4vwAX3aPdd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100528134133.7E24.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>

Hi, Kosaki.

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:46 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> * Luis Claudio R. Goncalves <lclaudio@uudg.org> [2010-05-28 00:51:47]:
>>
>> > @@ -382,6 +382,8 @@ static void dump_header(struct task_struct *p, gfp_t gfp_mask, int order,
>> >   */
>> >  static void __oom_kill_task(struct task_struct *p, int verbose)
>> >  {
>> > +   struct sched_param param;
>> > +
>> >     if (is_global_init(p)) {
>> >             WARN_ON(1);
>> >             printk(KERN_WARNING "tried to kill init!\n");
>> > @@ -413,8 +415,9 @@ static void __oom_kill_task(struct task_struct *p, int verbose)
>> >      */
>> >     p->rt.time_slice = HZ;
>> >     set_tsk_thread_flag(p, TIF_MEMDIE);
>> > -
>> >     force_sig(SIGKILL, p);
>> > +   param.sched_priority = MAX_RT_PRIO-1;
>> > +   sched_setscheduler_nocheck(p, SCHED_FIFO, &param);
>> >  }
>> >
>>
>> I would like to understand the visible benefits of this patch. Have
>> you seen an OOM kill tasked really get bogged down. Should this task
>> really be competing with other important tasks for run time?
>
> What you mean important? Until OOM victim task exit completely, the system have no memory.
> all of important task can't do anything.
>
> In almost kernel subsystems, automatically priority boost is really bad idea because
> it may break RT task's deterministic behavior. but OOM is one of exception. The deterministic
> was alread broken by memory starvation.

Yes or No.

IMHO, normally RT tasks shouldn't use dynamic allocation(ie,
non-deterministic functions or system calls) in place which is needed
deterministic. So memory starvation might not break real-time
deterministic.


>
> That's the reason I acked it.

>
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-28  5:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-27 18:04 Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-27 18:33 ` Oleg Nesterov
2010-05-28  2:54   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28  3:51     ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28  4:33       ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28  4:46         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28  5:30           ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-05-28  5:39             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28  5:50               ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28  5:59                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28  7:52                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 12:53                   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 14:06                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 14:20                       ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28 15:03                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 14:36                       ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 15:12                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 15:21                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-05-28 15:35                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 15:28                           ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-28 15:45                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-28 16:48                               ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-29  3:59                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31  2:15                                   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-31  5:06                                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  6:35                                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-31  7:05                                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  7:25                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31  9:30                                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-30 15:09                                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  0:21                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31  5:01                                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  5:04                                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31  5:46                                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  5:54                                         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31  6:09                                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31  6:51                                             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-31 10:33                                               ` Minchan Kim
2010-05-31 13:52                                               ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-05-31 23:50                                                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-06-01 17:35                                                   ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-06-01 20:49                                                     ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 13:54                                                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-02 14:20                                                         ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2010-06-02 21:11                                                         ` David Rientjes
2010-06-02 23:36                                                           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-06-03  0:52                                                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-03  7:50                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-06-03 20:32                                                             ` David Rientjes
2010-06-01  8:19                                                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-06-01 18:36                                                   ` David Rientjes
2010-05-28  6:27           ` Balbir Singh
2010-05-28  6:34             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-05-28  6:38             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-05-28 15:53       ` Peter Zijlstra

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