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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:26:05 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikWzkUkkghJcPBcuPsquyw-CodbH5z1DLbOiWP9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100816160623.GB15103@cmpxchg.org>

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org> wrote:
> [npiggin@suse.de bounces, switched to yahoo address]
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:43:50AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:

<snip>

>> +      * potentially causing a live-lock. While kswapd is awake and
>> +      * free pages are low, get a better estimate for free pages
>> +      */
>> +     if (nr_free_pages < zone->percpu_drift_mark &&
>> +                     !waitqueue_active(&zone->zone_pgdat->kswapd_wait)) {
>> +             int cpu;
>> +
>> +             for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
>> +                     struct per_cpu_pageset *pset;
>> +
>> +                     pset = per_cpu_ptr(zone->pageset, cpu);
>> +                     nr_free_pages += pset->vm_stat_diff[NR_FREE_PAGES];

We need to consider CONFIG_SMP.

>> +             }
>> +     }
>> +
>> +     return nr_free_pages;
>> +}
>> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> index c2407a4..67a2ed0 100644
>> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
>> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
>> @@ -1462,7 +1462,7 @@ int zone_watermark_ok(struct zone *z, int order, unsigned long mark,
>>  {
>>       /* free_pages my go negative - that's OK */
>>       long min = mark;
>> -     long free_pages = zone_page_state(z, NR_FREE_PAGES) - (1 << order) + 1;
>> +     long free_pages = zone_nr_free_pages(z) - (1 << order) + 1;
>>       int o;
>>
>>       if (alloc_flags & ALLOC_HIGH)
>> @@ -2413,7 +2413,7 @@ void show_free_areas(void)
>>                       " all_unreclaimable? %s"
>>                       "\n",
>>                       zone->name,
>> -                     K(zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES)),
>> +                     K(zone_nr_free_pages(zone)),
>>                       K(min_wmark_pages(zone)),
>>                       K(low_wmark_pages(zone)),
>>                       K(high_wmark_pages(zone)),
>> diff --git a/mm/vmstat.c b/mm/vmstat.c
>> index 7759941..c95a159 100644
>> --- a/mm/vmstat.c
>> +++ b/mm/vmstat.c
>> @@ -143,6 +143,9 @@ static void refresh_zone_stat_thresholds(void)
>>               for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
>>                       per_cpu_ptr(zone->pageset, cpu)->stat_threshold
>>                                                       = threshold;
>> +
>> +             zone->percpu_drift_mark = high_wmark_pages(zone) +
>> +                                     num_online_cpus() * threshold;
>>       }
>>  }
>
> Hm, this one I don't quite get (might be the jetlag, though): we have
> _at least_ NR_FREE_PAGES free pages, there may just be more lurking in

We can't make sure it.
As I said previous mail, current allocation path decreases
NR_FREE_PAGES after it removes pages from buddy list.

> the pcp counters.
>
> So shouldn't we only collect the pcp deltas in case the high watermark
> is breached?  Above this point, we should be fine or better, no?

If we don't consider allocation path, I agree on Hannes's opinion.
At least, we need to listen why Mel determine the threshold. :)



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Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-17  2:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-16  9:42 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator Mel Gorman
2010-08-16  9:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: page allocator: Update free page counters after pages are placed on the free list Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:04   ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 15:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17  2:21   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17  9:59     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 14:25       ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18  2:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-16  9:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-16  9:43   ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:47     ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-16 16:06     ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17  2:26       ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-08-17 10:42         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 15:01           ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-17 15:05             ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 10:16       ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-17 11:05         ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-17 14:20         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18  8:51           ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-18 14:57             ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19  8:06               ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 10:33                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 10:38                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:01                     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 14:09                       ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 14:34                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:07                           ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:22                             ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:40                               ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 15:44                                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:46     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 16:06       ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-19 16:45         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18  2:59   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-18 15:55     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19  0:07       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 19:00         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-19 23:49           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-20  0:22             ` [PATCH] vmstat : update zone stat threshold at onlining a cpu KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-20 14:54               ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-20 17:29                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-23  7:18               ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-16  9:42 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: page allocator: Drain per-cpu lists after direct reclaim allocation fails Mel Gorman
2010-08-16 14:50   ` Rik van Riel
2010-08-17  2:57   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-18  3:02   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-19 14:47   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-19 15:10     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23  8:00 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V2 Mel Gorman
2010-08-23  8:00 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 12:56   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:03     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 13:41       ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 13:55         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-23 16:04           ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-23 16:13             ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V3 Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 17:37 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-08-31 18:20   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-08-31 23:37   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01  7:24     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-01  7:33       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-01 20:16         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-01 20:34           ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-02  0:24             ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02  0:26               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02  0:39                 ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02  0:54                   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02  0:43   ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-02  0:49     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-02  8:51     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-03  9:08 [PATCH 0/3] Reduce watermark-related problems with the per-cpu allocator V4 Mel Gorman
2010-09-03  9:08 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake Mel Gorman
2010-09-03 22:55   ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-03 23:17     ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-03 23:28       ` Andrew Morton
2010-09-04  0:54         ` Christoph Lameter
2010-09-05 18:12     ` Mel Gorman

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