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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Nazarewicz <m.nazarewicz@samsung.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Daniel Walker <dwalker@codeaurora.org>,
	FUJITA Tomonori <fujita.tomonori@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Pawel Osciak <p.osciak@samsung.com>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Zach Pfeffer <zpfeffer@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFCv4 0/6] The Contiguous Memory Allocator framework
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:21:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTikS9Bc1NmCCO5w=pT+LBLaeSyk2PBnAry+oDxM8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1282817160.1975.476.camel@laptop>

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 7:06 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 18:29 +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> As I said following mail, I said about free space problem.
>> Of course, compaction could move anon pages into somewhere.
>> What's is somewhere? At last, it's same zone.
>> It can prevent fragment problem but not size of free space.
>> So I mean it would be better to move it into another zone(ex, HIGHMEM)
>> rather than OOM kill.
>
> Real machines don't have highmem, highmem sucks!! /me runs

It's another topic.
I agree highmem isn't a gorgeous. But my desktop isn't real machine?
Important thing is that we already have a highmem and many guys
include you(kmap stacking patch :))try to improve highmem problems. :)

>
> Does cross zone movement really matter, I though these crappy devices
> were mostly used on crappy hardware with very limited memory, so pretty
> much everything would be in zone_normal.. no?

No. Until now, many embedded devices have used to small memory. In
that case, only there is a DMA zone in system. But as I know, mobile
phone starts to use big(?) memory like 1G or above sooner or later. So
they starts to use HIGHMEM. Otherwise, 2G/2G space configuration.
Some embedded device uses many thread model to port easily from RTOS.
In that case, they don't have enough address space for application if
it uses 2G/2G model.

So we should care of HIGHMEM in embedded system from now on.

>
> But sure, if there's really a need we can look at maybe doing cross zone
> movement.
>


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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-26 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-20  9:50 Michal Nazarewicz
2010-08-20  9:50 ` [PATCH/RFCv4 1/6] lib: rbtree: rb_root_init() function added Michal Nazarewicz
2010-08-20  9:50   ` [PATCH/RFCv4 2/6] mm: cma: Contiguous Memory Allocator added Michal Nazarewicz
2010-08-20  9:50     ` [PATCH/RFCv4 3/6] mm: cma: Added SysFS support Michal Nazarewicz
2010-08-20  9:50       ` [PATCH/RFCv4 4/6] mm: cma: Added command line parameters support Michal Nazarewicz
2010-08-20  9:50         ` [PATCH/RFCv4 5/6] mm: cma: Test device and application added Michal Nazarewicz
2010-08-20  9:50           ` [PATCH/RFCv4 6/6] arm: Added CMA to Aquila and Goni Michal Nazarewicz
2010-08-25 20:37       ` [PATCH/RFCv4 3/6] mm: cma: Added SysFS support Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-08-26  1:20         ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-25 20:32     ` [PATCH/RFCv4 2/6] mm: cma: Contiguous Memory Allocator added Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-08-26  1:22       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-26  6:25     ` [PATCH/RFCv4.1 " Michal Nazarewicz
2010-08-26 13:47     ` [PATCH/RFCv4 " Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  2:09       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-28 12:37     ` Hans Verkuil
2010-08-29  1:48       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-20 13:15 ` [PATCH/RFCv4 0/6] The Contiguous Memory Allocator framework Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-25 22:58   ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-25 23:26     ` Daniel Walker
2010-08-26  1:38       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-25 23:31     ` Jonathan Corbet
2010-08-26  1:38       ` Pawel Osciak
2010-08-26  1:49       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-26  2:49       ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26  3:04         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26  8:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-26  9:29           ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 10:06             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-26 10:21               ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-08-26 11:05                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-26  0:58     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26  2:12       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-26  2:50         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26  3:44           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26  4:01             ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-26  4:39               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26  5:54               ` Américo Wang
2010-08-26  4:06             ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26  4:14               ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26  4:30               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26  9:36                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-27  8:16                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-27  8:37                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-09-02  8:54                     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-03 10:29                       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-05 15:57                         ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-06  0:08                           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-08-26  1:22     ` Pawel Osciak
2010-08-26  2:40     ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-26  8:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-26 10:18       ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-28 13:08     ` Hans Verkuil
2010-08-28 13:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-28 13:58         ` Hans Verkuil
2010-08-28 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-30  8:27     ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-08-26  1:28   ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-26  8:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-27  2:41       ` Michał Nazarewicz
2010-08-26 10:12   ` Mel Gorman

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