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From: Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>
To: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Balbir Singh <balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@mxp.nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 01:05:42 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=rDcjREYStNJ=Nk8A_2DH=t2cocxpwa_rj6W3r@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101130160000.ac7b0b76.kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:00 PM, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 22:49:41 -0800
> Ying Han <yinghan@google.com> wrote:
>
>> The current implementation of memcg only supports direct reclaim and this
>> patchset adds the support for background reclaim. Per cgroup background
>> reclaim is needed which spreads out the memory pressure over longer period
>> of time and smoothes out the system performance.
>>
>> The current implementation is not a stable version, and it crashes sometimes
>> on my NUMA machine. Before going further for debugging, I would like to start
>> the discussion and hear the feedbacks of the initial design.
>>
>
> It's welcome but please wait until merge of dirty-ratio.
> And please post after you don't see crash ....
Yeah, I will look into the crash and fix it. Besides, it runs fine so
far on my single node
system.

>
> Description of design is appreciated.
> Where the cost for "kswapd" is charged agaist if cpu cgroup is used at the same time ?
There is no special treatment for that in the current implementation.
Ideally it would be nice to charge the kswapd time to the
corresponding cgroup. As a starting point, all the kswapd threads
cputime could be charged to root.

>> Current status:
>> I run through some simple tests which reads/writes a large file and makes sure
>> it triggers per cgroup kswapd on the low_wmark. Also, I compared at
>> pg_steal/pg_scan ratio w/o background reclaim.
>>
>>
>
>  Step1: Create a cgroup with 500M memory_limit and set the min_free_kbytes to 1024.
>> $ mount -t cgroup -o cpuset,memory cpuset /dev/cgroup
>> $ mkdir /dev/cgroup/A
>> $ echo 0 >/dev/cgroup/A/cpuset.cpus
>> $ echo 0 >/dev/cgroup/A/cpuset.mems
>> $ echo 500m >/dev/cgroup/A/memory.limit_in_bytes
>> $ echo 1024 >/dev/cgroup/A/memory.min_free_kbytes
>> $ echo $$ >/dev/cgroup/A/tasks
>>
>> Step2: Check the wmarks.
>> $ cat /dev/cgroup/A/memory.reclaim_wmarks
>> memcg_low_wmark 98304000
>> memcg_high_wmark 81920000
>>
>> Step3: Dirty the pages by creating a 20g file on hard drive.
>> $ ddtest -D /export/hdc3/dd -b 1024 -n 20971520 -t 1
>>
>> Checked the memory.stat w/o background reclaim. It used to be all the pages are
>> reclaimed from direct reclaim, and now about half of them are reclaimed at
>> background. (note: writing '0' to min_free_kbytes disables per cgroup kswapd)
>>
>> Only direct reclaim                                                With background reclaim:
>> kswapd_steal 0                                                     kswapd_steal 2751822
>> pg_pgsteal 5100401                                               pg_pgsteal 2476676
>> kswapd_pgscan 0                                                  kswapd_pgscan 6019373
>> pg_scan 5542464                                                   pg_scan 3851281
>> pgrefill 304505                                                       pgrefill 348077
>> pgoutrun 0                                                             pgoutrun 44568
>> allocstall 159278                                                    allocstall 75669
>>
>> Step4: Cleanup
>> $ echo $$ >/dev/cgroup/tasks
>> $ echo 0 > /dev/cgroup/A/memory.force_empty
>>
>> Step5: Read the 20g file into the pagecache.
>> $ cat /export/hdc3/dd/tf0 > /dev/zero;
>>
>> Checked the memory.stat w/o background reclaim. All the clean pages are reclaimed at
>> background instead of direct reclaim.
>>
>> Only direct reclaim                                                With background reclaim
>> kswapd_steal 0                                                      kswapd_steal 3512424
>> pg_pgsteal 3461280                                               pg_pgsteal 0
>> kswapd_pgscan 0                                                  kswapd_pgscan 3512440
>> pg_scan 3461280                                                   pg_scan 0
>> pgrefill 0                                                                pgrefill 0
>> pgoutrun 0                                                             pgoutrun 74973
>> allocstall 108165                                                    allocstall 0
>>
>
> What is the trigger for starting background reclaim ?

The background reclaim is triggered when the usage_in_bytes above the
watermark in mem_cgroup_do_charge.

--Ying
>
> Thanks,
> -Kame
>
>

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      reply	other threads:[~2010-11-30  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-30  6:49 Ying Han
2010-11-30  6:49 ` [PATCH 1/4] Add kswapd descriptor Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:08   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  8:15     ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-30  8:27       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  8:54         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:40           ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 23:46             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07  6:15           ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07  6:24             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07  6:59               ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07  8:00                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:26       ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 20:17     ` Ying Han
2010-12-01  0:12       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07  6:52   ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07 19:21     ` Ying Han
2010-12-07 12:33   ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-07 17:28     ` Ying Han
2010-12-08  0:39       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08  1:24         ` Ying Han
2010-12-08  1:28           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08  2:10             ` Ying Han
2010-12-08  2:13               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-08 12:19           ` Mel Gorman
2010-12-08  7:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-07 18:50     ` Ying Han
2010-12-08  7:22     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-08  7:37       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  6:49 ` [PATCH 2/4] Add per cgroup reclaim watermarks Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:21   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 20:44     ` Ying Han
2010-12-01  0:27       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-07 14:56   ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-30  6:49 ` [PATCH 3/4] Per cgroup background reclaim Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:51   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  8:07     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 22:01       ` Ying Han
2010-11-30 22:00     ` Ying Han
2010-12-07  2:25     ` Ying Han
2010-12-07  5:21       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-12-01  2:18   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-12-01  2:16     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  6:49 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add more per memcg stats Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:53   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30 18:22     ` Ying Han
2010-11-30  6:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/4] memcg: per cgroup background reclaim KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-30  7:03   ` Ying Han
2010-12-02 14:41     ` Balbir Singh
2010-12-07  2:29       ` Ying Han
2010-11-30  7:00 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-11-30  9:05   ` Ying Han [this message]

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