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From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] deactive invalidated pages
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 08:24:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=KunDRwVd73vtbng0F+a=QBgJeV5BXrewYJa3R@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101123092826.GD19571@csn.ul.ie>

Hi Mel,

On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:30:23PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> Recently, there are reported problem about thrashing.
>> (http://marc.info/?l=rsync&m=128885034930933&w=2)
>> It happens by backup workloads(ex, nightly rsync).
>> That's because the workload makes just use-once pages
>> and touches pages twice. It promotes the page into
>> active list so that it results in working set page eviction.
>>
>> Some app developer want to support POSIX_FADV_NOREUSE.
>> But other OSes don't support it, either.
>> (http://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=128928979512086&w=2)
>>
>> By Other approach, app developer uses POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED.
>> But it has a problem. If kernel meets page is writing
>> during invalidate_mapping_pages, it can't work.
>> It is very hard for application programmer to use it.
>> Because they always have to sync data before calling
>> fadivse(..POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED) to make sure the pages could
>> be discardable. At last, they can't use deferred write of kernel
>> so that they could see performance loss.
>> (http://insights.oetiker.ch/linux/fadvise.html)
>>
>> In fact, invalidate is very big hint to reclaimer.
>> It means we don't use the page any more. So let's move
>> the writing page into inactive list's head.
>>
>> If it is real working set, it could have a enough time to
>> activate the page since we always try to keep many pages in
>> inactive list.
>>
>> I reuse lru_demote of Peter with some change.
>>
>> Reported-by: Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@gmail.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>> Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
>> Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
>> Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
>> Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
>>
>> Ben, Remain thing is to modify rsync and use
>> fadvise(POSIX_FADV_DONTNEED). Could you test it?
>> ---
>>  include/linux/swap.h |    1 +
>>  mm/swap.c            |   61 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  mm/truncate.c        |   11 +++++---
>>  3 files changed, 69 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/linux/swap.h b/include/linux/swap.h
>> index eba53e7..a3c9248 100644
>> --- a/include/linux/swap.h
>> +++ b/include/linux/swap.h
>> @@ -213,6 +213,7 @@ extern void mark_page_accessed(struct page *);
>>  extern void lru_add_drain(void);
>>  extern int lru_add_drain_all(void);
>>  extern void rotate_reclaimable_page(struct page *page);
>> +extern void lru_deactive_page(struct page *page);
>>  extern void swap_setup(void);
>>
>>  extern void add_page_to_unevictable_list(struct page *page);
>> diff --git a/mm/swap.c b/mm/swap.c
>> index 3f48542..56fa298 100644
>> --- a/mm/swap.c
>> +++ b/mm/swap.c
>> @@ -39,6 +39,8 @@ int page_cluster;
>>
>>  static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct pagevec[NR_LRU_LISTS], lru_add_pvecs);
>>  static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct pagevec, lru_rotate_pvecs);
>> +static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct pagevec, lru_deactive_pvecs);
>> +
>>
>>  /*
>>   * This path almost never happens for VM activity - pages are normally
>> @@ -266,6 +268,45 @@ void add_page_to_unevictable_list(struct page *page)
>>       spin_unlock_irq(&zone->lru_lock);
>>  }
>>
>> +static void __pagevec_lru_deactive(struct pagevec *pvec)
>> +{
>
> Might be worth commenting that this function must be called with pre-emption
> disabled. FWIW, I am reasonably sure your implementation is prefectly safe
> but a note wouldn't hurt.

Will fix.

>
>> +     int i, lru, file;
>> +
>> +     struct zone *zone = NULL;
>> +
>> +     for (i = 0; i < pagevec_count(pvec); i++) {
>> +             struct page *page = pvec->pages[i];
>> +             struct zone *pagezone = page_zone(page);
>> +
>> +             if (pagezone != zone) {
>> +                     if (zone)
>> +                             spin_unlock_irq(&zone->lru_lock);
>> +                     zone = pagezone;
>> +                     spin_lock_irq(&zone->lru_lock);
>> +             }
>> +
>> +             if (PageLRU(page)) {
>> +                     if (PageActive(page)) {
>> +                             file = page_is_file_cache(page);
>> +                             lru = page_lru_base_type(page);
>> +                             del_page_from_lru_list(zone, page,
>> +                                             lru + LRU_ACTIVE);
>> +                             ClearPageActive(page);
>> +                             ClearPageReferenced(page);
>> +                             add_page_to_lru_list(zone, page, lru);
>> +                             __count_vm_event(PGDEACTIVATE);
>> +
>
> What about memcg, do we not need to be calling mem_cgroup_add_lru_list() here
> as well? I'm looking at the differences between what move_active_pages_to_lru()

Recently, add_page_to_lru_list contains mem_cgroup_add_lru_list.

> is doing and this. I'm wondering if it'd be worth your whole building a list
> of active pages that are to be moved to the inactive list and passing them
> to move_active_pages_to_lru() ? I confuess I have not thought about it deeply
> so it might be a terrible suggestion but it might reduce duplication of code.

Firstly I tried it so I sent a patch about making
move_to_active_pages_to_lru more generic.
move_to_active_pages_to_lru needs zone argument so I need gathering
pages per zone in truncate.
I don't want for user of the function to consider even zone and
zone->lru_lock handling.

I think the lru_demote_pages could be used elsewhere(ex, readahead max
size heuristic).
So it's generic and easy to use. :)

>
>> +                             update_page_reclaim_stat(zone, page, file, 0);
>> +                     }
>> +             }
>> +     }
>> +     if (zone)
>> +             spin_unlock_irq(&zone->lru_lock);
>> +
>> +     release_pages(pvec->pages, pvec->nr, pvec->cold);
>> +     pagevec_reinit(pvec);
>> +}
>> +
>>  /*
>>   * Drain pages out of the cpu's pagevecs.
>>   * Either "cpu" is the current CPU, and preemption has already been
>> @@ -292,8 +333,28 @@ static void drain_cpu_pagevecs(int cpu)
>>               pagevec_move_tail(pvec);
>>               local_irq_restore(flags);
>>       }
>> +
>> +     pvec = &per_cpu(lru_deactive_pvecs, cpu);
>> +     if (pagevec_count(pvec))
>> +             __pagevec_lru_deactive(pvec);
>> +}
>> +
>> +/*
>> + * Function used to forecefully demote a page to the head of the inactive
>> + * list.
>
> s/forecefully/forcefully/
>
> The comment should also state *why* and under what circumstances we move
> pages to the inactive list like this. Also based on the discussions
> elsewhere in this thread, it'd be nice to include a comment why it's the
> head of the inactive list and not the tail.

Fair enough.

Thanks for the comment, Mel.

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Kind regards,
Minchan Kim

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-23 23:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-21 14:30 Minchan Kim
2010-11-21 14:30 ` [RFC 2/2] Prevent promotion of page in madvise_dontneed Minchan Kim
2010-11-21 14:38   ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-21 16:34   ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-22  0:31     ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-22 22:21   ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  4:57     ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  9:50     ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 23:49       ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-21 15:21 ` [RFC 1/2] deactive invalidated pages Ben Gamari
2010-11-23  7:16   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 13:48     ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 23:48       ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 14:49     ` [RFC PATCH] fadvise support in rsync Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 15:35       ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24  0:17       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23 14:49     ` [PATCH 1/3] Add fadvise interface wrapper Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 14:49     ` [PATCH 2/3] Inform kernel of FADV_DONTNEED hint in sender Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 14:49     ` [PATCH 3/3] Inform kernel of FADV_DONTNEED hint in receiver Ben Gamari
2010-11-22  1:17 ` [RFC 1/2] deactive invalidated pages Rik van Riel
2010-11-22 22:14 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  4:52   ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  5:01     ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  5:23       ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  5:22         ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  5:45           ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  5:48             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  6:05               ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  7:15                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  7:44                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  7:53                     ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  8:02                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  9:43               ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 23:32                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  9:38       ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 14:55         ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-23 14:58           ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 20:35             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 22:10               ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 23:45                 ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-24 18:01                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23  7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23  7:40   ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  7:42     ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  8:01     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23  8:44       ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  9:02         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23  9:05           ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23  9:07             ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-23 14:57   ` Ben Gamari
2010-11-24  0:13     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-11-23  9:28 ` Mel Gorman
2010-11-23 23:24   ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2010-11-24 10:02     ` Mel Gorman

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