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From: Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Ying Han <yinghan@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Release mmap_sem when page fault blocks on disk transfer.
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:06:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=3hscMOo6Ho_RbCT82eUZ_Scz_e_9KGQAdKwAs@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGgZC7eHW_Q-aR5Vmur4yjv_kKSJ8z3MX60e-r@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> Also, I think the "RELEASE" naming is too much about the
> implementation, not about the context. I think it would be more
> sensible to call it "ALLOW_RETRY" or "ATOMIC" or something like this,
> and not make it about releasing the page lock so much as about what
> you want to happen.
>
> Because quite frankly, I could imagine other reasons to allow page fault retry.
>
> (Similarly, I would rename VM_FAULT_RELEASED to VM_FAULT_RETRY. Again:
> name things for the _concept_, not for some odd implementation issue)

All right, I changed for your names and I think they do help. There is
still one annoyance though (and this is why I had not made this purely
about retry in the first iteration): the up_read(mmap_sem) and the
wait_on_page_locked(page) still happen within filemap_fault(). I think
ideally we would prefer to move this into do_page_fault so that the
interface could *really* be about retry; however we can't easily do
that because the struct page is not exposed at that level.

>
>> -       if (fault & VM_FAULT_MAJOR) {
>> -               tsk->maj_flt++;
>> -               perf_sw_event(PERF_COUNT_SW_PAGE_FAULTS_MAJ, 1, 0,
>> -                                    regs, address);
>> -       } else {
>> -               tsk->min_flt++;
>> -               perf_sw_event(PERF_COUNT_SW_PAGE_FAULTS_MIN, 1, 0,
>> -                                    regs, address);
>> +       if (release_flag) {     /* Did not go through a retry */
>> +               if (fault & VM_FAULT_MAJOR) {
>
> I really don't know if this is correct. What if you have two major
> faults due to the retry? What if the first one is a minor fault, but
> when we retry it's a major fault because the page got released? The
> nesting of the conditionals doesn't seem to make conceptual sense.
>
> I dunno. I can see what you're doing ("only do statistics for the
> first return"), but at the same time it just feels a bit icky.

In a way filemap_fault() already has that problem - during a minor
fault, the page could go away before we have a chance to lock it, and
the fault would still be counted as minor. So I just took that
property (first find_get_page() determines if we call the fault minor
or major) and extended it into the retry case.

One reasonable alternative, I think, would be to always count the
fault as major if we had to go through the retry path. The main
difference this would make, I think, is if two threads hit the exact
same page before we get a chance to load it from disk - in which case
they would both get counted as major faults, vs the current accounting
that would charge one as major and the other one as minor.

>> -       lock_page(page);
>> +       /* Lock the page. */
>> +       if (!trylock_page(page)) {
>> +               if (!(vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_RELEASE))
>> +                       __lock_page(page);
>> +               else {
>> +                       /*
>> +                        * Caller passed FAULT_FLAG_RELEASE flag.
>> +                        * This indicates it has read-acquired mmap_sem,
>> +                        * and requests that it be released if we have to
>> +                        * wait for the page to be transferred from disk.
>> +                        * Caller will then retry starting with the
>> +                        * mmap_sem read-acquire

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-01 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-01  5:04 [PATCH 0/2] Reduce mmap_sem hold times during file backed page faults Michel Lespinasse
2010-10-01  5:04 ` [PATCH 1/2] Unique path for locking page in filemap_fault() Michel Lespinasse
2010-10-01  5:04 ` [PATCH 2/2] Release mmap_sem when page fault blocks on disk transfer Michel Lespinasse
2010-10-01 14:06   ` Rik van Riel
2010-10-01 15:31   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-01 23:06     ` Michel Lespinasse [this message]
2010-10-02  0:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-10-01 12:07 ` [PATCH 0/2] Reduce mmap_sem hold times during file backed page faults Rik van Riel

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