From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: mhocko@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev, shakeelb@google.com,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, duanxiongchun@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 03/11] mm: memcontrol: make lruvec lock safe when LRU pages are reparented
Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 16:17:27 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9fe57cf7-9d21-3f91-ef27-e046b426c219@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yo5NdncOsqL0xP8Q@FVFYT0MHHV2J.googleapis.com>
On 5/25/22 11:38, Muchun Song wrote:
> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 10:48:54AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 09:03:59PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 08:30:15AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 05:53:30PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 03:27:20PM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 02:05:43PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote:
>>>>>>> @@ -1230,10 +1213,23 @@ void lruvec_memcg_debug(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct folio *folio)
>>>>>>> */
>>>>>>> struct lruvec *folio_lruvec_lock(struct folio *folio)
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>> - struct lruvec *lruvec = folio_lruvec(folio);
>>>>>>> + struct lruvec *lruvec;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> + rcu_read_lock();
>>>>>>> +retry:
>>>>>>> + lruvec = folio_lruvec(folio);
>>>>>>> spin_lock(&lruvec->lru_lock);
>>>>>>> - lruvec_memcg_debug(lruvec, folio);
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + if (unlikely(lruvec_memcg(lruvec) != folio_memcg(folio))) {
>>>>>>> + spin_unlock(&lruvec->lru_lock);
>>>>>>> + goto retry;
>>>>>>> + }
>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>> + /*
>>>>>>> + * Preemption is disabled in the internal of spin_lock, which can serve
>>>>>>> + * as RCU read-side critical sections.
>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>> + rcu_read_unlock();
>>>>>> The code looks right to me, but I don't understand the comment: why do
>>>>>> we care that the rcu read-side continues? With the lru_lock held,
>>>>>> reparenting is on hold and the lruvec cannot be rcu-freed anyway, no?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Right. We could hold rcu read lock until end of reparting. So you mean
>>>>> we do rcu_read_unlock in folio_lruvec_lock()?
>>>> The comment seems to suggest that disabling preemption is what keeps
>>>> the lruvec alive. But it's the lru_lock that keeps it alive. The
>>>> cgroup destruction path tries to take the lru_lock long before it even
>>>> gets to synchronize_rcu(). Once you hold the lru_lock, having an
>>>> implied read-side critical section as well doesn't seem to matter.
>>>>
>>> Well, I thought that spinlocks have implicit read-side critical sections
>>> because it disables preemption (I learned from the comments above
>>> synchronize_rcu() that says interrupts, preemption, or softirqs have been
>>> disabled also serve as RCU read-side critical sections). So I have a
>>> question: is it still true in a PREEMPT_RT kernel (I am not familiar with
>>> this)?
>> Yes, but you're missing my point.
>>
>>>> Should the comment be deleted?
>>> I think we could remove the comments. If the above question is false, seems
>>> like we should continue holding rcu read lock.
>> It's true.
>>
> Thanks for your answer.
>
>> But assume it's false for a second. Why would you need to continue
>> holding it? What would it protect? The lruvec would be pinned by the
>> spinlock even if it DIDN'T imply an RCU lock, right?
>>
>> So I don't understand the point of the comment. If the implied RCU
>> lock is protecting something not covered by the bare spinlock itself,
>> it should be added to the comment. Otherwise, the comment should go.
>>
> Got it. Thanks for your nice explanation. I'll remove
> the comment here.
Note that there is a similar comment in patch 6 which may have to be
removed as well.
Cheers,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-05-26 20:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-05-24 6:05 [PATCH v4 00/11] Use obj_cgroup APIs to charge the LRU pages Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 01/11] mm: memcontrol: prepare objcg API for non-kmem usage Muchun Song
2022-05-24 19:01 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-25 8:46 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25 2:36 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 7:57 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25 12:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-25 13:08 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 02/11] mm: memcontrol: introduce compact_folio_lruvec_lock_irqsave Muchun Song
2022-05-24 19:22 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-25 9:38 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 03/11] mm: memcontrol: make lruvec lock safe when LRU pages are reparented Muchun Song
2022-05-24 19:23 ` Waiman Long
2022-05-25 10:20 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25 14:59 ` Waiman Long
2022-05-24 19:27 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-25 9:53 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25 12:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-25 13:03 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25 14:48 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-25 15:38 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-26 20:17 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2022-05-27 2:55 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 04/11] mm: vmscan: rework move_pages_to_lru() Muchun Song
2022-05-24 19:38 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-25 11:38 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 19:52 ` Waiman Long
2022-05-25 11:43 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25 2:43 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 11:41 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 05/11] mm: thp: introduce folio_split_queue_lock{_irqsave}() Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 06/11] mm: thp: make split queue lock safe when LRU pages are reparented Muchun Song
2022-05-25 2:54 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 11:44 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 07/11] mm: memcontrol: make all the callers of {folio,page}_memcg() safe Muchun Song
2022-05-25 3:03 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 11:51 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 08/11] mm: memcontrol: introduce memcg_reparent_ops Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 09/11] mm: memcontrol: use obj_cgroup APIs to charge the LRU pages Muchun Song
2022-05-24 12:29 ` kernel test robot
2022-05-24 18:16 ` kernel test robot
2022-05-25 7:14 ` [mm] bec0ae1210: WARNING:possible_recursive_locking_detected kernel test robot
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 10/11] mm: lru: add VM_BUG_ON_FOLIO to lru maintenance function Muchun Song
2022-05-24 19:44 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-25 11:59 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-25 2:40 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-25 11:58 ` Muchun Song
2022-05-24 6:05 ` [PATCH v4 11/11] mm: lru: use lruvec lock to serialize memcg changes Muchun Song
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