From: Ying Huang <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Aneesh Kumar K V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Cc: Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 1/9] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 14:18:16 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f9506fbf35c4ec4b253d53914973be6e1f5a893.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2b4f053b-de25-986c-f764-5cc6a28f4953@linux.ibm.com>
On Wed, 2022-06-08 at 10:28 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K V wrote:
> On 6/8/22 3:02 AM, Yang Shi wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 6:43 AM Aneesh Kumar K.V
> > <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > In the current kernel, memory tiers are defined implicitly via a
> > > demotion path relationship between NUMA nodes, which is created
> > > during the kernel initialization and updated when a NUMA node is
> > > hot-added or hot-removed. The current implementation puts all
> > > nodes with CPU into the top tier, and builds the tier hierarchy
> > > tier-by-tier by establishing the per-node demotion targets based
> > > on the distances between nodes.
> > >
> > > This current memory tier kernel interface needs to be improved for
> > > several important use cases,
> > >
> > > The current tier initialization code always initializes
> > > each memory-only NUMA node into a lower tier. But a memory-only
> > > NUMA node may have a high performance memory device (e.g. a DRAM
> > > device attached via CXL.mem or a DRAM-backed memory-only node on
> > > a virtual machine) and should be put into a higher tier.
> > >
> > > The current tier hierarchy always puts CPU nodes into the top
> > > tier. But on a system with HBM or GPU devices, the
> > > memory-only NUMA nodes mapping these devices should be in the
> > > top tier, and DRAM nodes with CPUs are better to be placed into the
> > > next lower tier.
> > >
> > > With current kernel higher tier node can only be demoted to selected nodes on the
> > > next lower tier as defined by the demotion path, not any other
> > > node from any lower tier. This strict, hard-coded demotion order
> > > does not work in all use cases (e.g. some use cases may want to
> > > allow cross-socket demotion to another node in the same demotion
> > > tier as a fallback when the preferred demotion node is out of
> > > space), This demotion order is also inconsistent with the page
> > > allocation fallback order when all the nodes in a higher tier are
> > > out of space: The page allocation can fall back to any node from
> > > any lower tier, whereas the demotion order doesn't allow that.
> > >
> > > The current kernel also don't provide any interfaces for the
> > > userspace to learn about the memory tier hierarchy in order to
> > > optimize its memory allocations.
> > >
> > > This patch series address the above by defining memory tiers explicitly.
> > >
> > > This patch introduce explicity memory tiers with ranks. The rank
> > > value of a memory tier is used to derive the demotion order between
> > > NUMA nodes. The memory tiers present in a system can be found at
> > >
> > > /sys/devices/system/memtier/memtierN/
> > >
> > > The nodes which are part of a specific memory tier can be listed
> > > via
> > > /sys/devices/system/memtier/memtierN/nodelist
> > >
> > > "Rank" is an opaque value. Its absolute value doesn't have any
> > > special meaning. But the rank values of different memtiers can be
> > > compared with each other to determine the memory tier order.
> > >
> > > For example, if we have 3 memtiers: memtier0, memtier1, memiter2, and
> > > their rank values are 300, 200, 100, then the memory tier order is:
> > > memtier0 -> memtier2 -> memtier1, where memtier0 is the highest tier
> > > and memtier1 is the lowest tier.
> > >
> > > The rank value of each memtier should be unique.
> > >
> > > A higher rank memory tier will appear first in the demotion order
> > > than a lower rank memory tier. ie. while reclaim we choose a node
> > > in higher rank memory tier to demote pages to as compared to a node
> > > in a lower rank memory tier.
> > >
> > > For now we are not adding the dynamic number of memory tiers.
> > > But a future series supporting that is possible. Currently
> > > number of tiers supported is limitted to MAX_MEMORY_TIERS(3).
> > > When doing memory hotplug, if not added to a memory tier, the NUMA
> > > node gets added to DEFAULT_MEMORY_TIER(1).
> > >
> > > This patch is based on the proposal sent by Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com> at [1].
> > >
> > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/CAAPL-u9Wv+nH1VOZTj=9p9S70Y3Qz3+63EkqncRDdHfubsrjfw@mail.gmail.com
> > >
> > > Suggested-by: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Jagdish Gediya <jvgediya@linux.ibm.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
> > > ---
> > > include/linux/memory-tiers.h | 20 ++++
> > > mm/Kconfig | 11 ++
> > > mm/Makefile | 1 +
> > > mm/memory-tiers.c | 188 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > 4 files changed, 220 insertions(+)
> > > create mode 100644 include/linux/memory-tiers.h
> > > create mode 100644 mm/memory-tiers.c
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/linux/memory-tiers.h b/include/linux/memory-tiers.h
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..e17f6b4ee177
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/include/linux/memory-tiers.h
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
> > > +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0 */
> > > +#ifndef _LINUX_MEMORY_TIERS_H
> > > +#define _LINUX_MEMORY_TIERS_H
> > > +
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_TIERED_MEMORY
> > > +
> > > +#define MEMORY_TIER_HBM_GPU 0
> > > +#define MEMORY_TIER_DRAM 1
> > > +#define MEMORY_TIER_PMEM 2
> > > +
> > > +#define MEMORY_RANK_HBM_GPU 300
> > > +#define MEMORY_RANK_DRAM 200
> > > +#define MEMORY_RANK_PMEM 100
> > > +
> > > +#define DEFAULT_MEMORY_TIER MEMORY_TIER_DRAM
> > > +#define MAX_MEMORY_TIERS 3
> > > +
> > > +#endif /* CONFIG_TIERED_MEMORY */
> > > +
> > > +#endif
> > > diff --git a/mm/Kconfig b/mm/Kconfig
> > > index 169e64192e48..08a3d330740b 100644
> > > --- a/mm/Kconfig
> > > +++ b/mm/Kconfig
> > > @@ -614,6 +614,17 @@ config ARCH_ENABLE_HUGEPAGE_MIGRATION
> > > config ARCH_ENABLE_THP_MIGRATION
> > > bool
> > >
> > > +config TIERED_MEMORY
> > > + bool "Support for explicit memory tiers"
> > > + def_bool n
> > > + depends on MIGRATION && NUMA
> > > + help
> > > + Support to split nodes into memory tiers explicitly and
> > > + to demote pages on reclaim to lower tiers. This option
> > > + also exposes sysfs interface to read nodes available in
> > > + specific tier and to move specific node among different
> > > + possible tiers.
> >
> > IMHO we should not need a new kernel config. If tiering is not present
> > then there is just one tier on the system. And tiering is a kind of
> > hardware configuration, the information could be shown regardless of
> > whether demotion/promotion is supported/enabled or not.
> >
>
> This was added so that we could avoid doing multiple
>
> #if defined(CONFIG_MIGRATION) && defined(CONFIG_NUMA)
>
> Initially I had that as def_bool y and depends on MIGRATION && NUMA. But
> it was later suggested that def_bool is not recommended for newer config.
>
> How about
>
> config TIERED_MEMORY
> bool "Support for explicit memory tiers"
Need to remove this line too to make it invisible for users?
Best Regards,
HUang, Ying
> - def_bool n
> - depends on MIGRATION && NUMA
> - help
> - Support to split nodes into memory tiers explicitly and
> - to demote pages on reclaim to lower tiers. This option
> - also exposes sysfs interface to read nodes available in
> - specific tier and to move specific node among different
> - possible tiers.
> + def_bool MIGRATION && NUMA
>
> config HUGETLB_PAGE_SIZE_VARIABLE
> def_bool n
>
> ie, we just make it a Kconfig variable without exposing it to the user?
>
> -aneesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-08 6:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-03 13:42 [PATCH v5 0/9] mm/demotion: Memory tiers and demotion Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] mm/demotion: Add support for explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-07 18:43 ` Tim Chen
2022-06-07 20:18 ` Wei Xu
2022-06-08 4:30 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 6:06 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 4:37 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 6:10 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 8:04 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-07 21:32 ` Yang Shi
2022-06-08 1:34 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 16:37 ` Yang Shi
2022-06-09 6:52 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 4:58 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 6:18 ` Ying Huang [this message]
2022-06-08 16:42 ` Yang Shi
2022-06-09 8:17 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-09 16:04 ` Yang Shi
2022-06-08 14:11 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-08 14:21 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 15:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-08 16:13 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 18:16 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-09 2:33 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-09 13:55 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-09 14:22 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-09 20:41 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-10 6:15 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-10 9:57 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-13 14:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-13 14:23 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-13 15:50 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-14 6:48 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-14 8:01 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-14 18:56 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-06-15 6:23 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-16 1:11 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-16 3:45 ` Wei Xu
2022-06-16 4:47 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-16 5:51 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-17 10:41 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-20 1:54 ` Huang, Ying
2022-06-14 16:45 ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-06-21 8:27 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] mm/demotion: Expose per node memory tier to sysfs Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-07 20:15 ` Tim Chen
2022-06-08 4:55 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 6:42 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 16:06 ` Tim Chen
2022-06-08 16:15 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] mm/demotion: Move memory demotion related code Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06 13:39 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] mm/demotion: Build demotion targets based on explicit memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-07 22:51 ` Tim Chen
2022-06-08 5:02 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 6:52 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 6:50 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 8:19 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 8:00 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] mm/demotion/dax/kmem: Set node's memory tier to MEMORY_TIER_PMEM Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] mm/demotion: Add support for removing node from demotion memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-07 23:40 ` Tim Chen
2022-06-08 6:59 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 8:20 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 8:23 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 8:29 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 8:34 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] mm/demotion: Demote pages according to allocation fallback order Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] mm/demotion: Add documentation for memory tiering Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-03 13:42 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] mm/demotion: Update node_is_toptier to work with memory tiers Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-06 3:11 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 3:52 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-06 7:24 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 8:33 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 7:26 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 8:28 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-08 8:32 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-08 14:37 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-08 20:14 ` Tim Chen
2022-06-10 6:04 ` Ying Huang
2022-06-06 4:53 ` [PATCH] mm/demotion: Add sysfs ABI documentation Aneesh Kumar K.V
2022-06-08 13:57 ` [PATCH v5 0/9] mm/demotion: Memory tiers and demotion Johannes Weiner
2022-06-08 14:20 ` Aneesh Kumar K V
2022-06-09 8:53 ` Jonathan Cameron
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