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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Sumanth Korikkar <sumanthk@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Support dynamic (de)configuration of memory
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 11:33:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9f35aedb-fd67-412f-a3d3-bb6692f7c2ce@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aOYrUEr-inqogzJE@li-2b55cdcc-350b-11b2-a85c-a78bff51fc11.ibm.com>

On 08.10.25 11:13, Sumanth Korikkar wrote:
>>>> I wonder if the above two are really required. I would expect most/all users
>>>> to simply keep using -e / -d.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, there might be some corner cases, but I would assume most people to
>>>> not want to care about memmap-on-memory with the new model.
>>>
>>> I believe this remains very beneficial for customers in the following
>>> scenario:
>>>
>>> 1) Initial memory layout:
>>> 4 GB configured online
>>> 512 GB standby
>>>
>>> If memory_hotplug.memmap_on_memory=Y is set in the kernel command line:
>>> Suppose user requires more memory and onlines 256 GB. With memmap-on-memory
>>> enabled, this likely succeeds by default.
>>>
>>> Later, the user needs 256 GB of contiguous physical memory across memory
>>> blocks. Then, the user can still configure those memory blocks with
>>> memmap-on-memory disabled and online it.
>>>
>>> 2) If the administrator forgets to configure
>>> memory_hotplug.memmap_on_memory=Y, the following steps can be taken:
>>> Rescue from OOM situations: configure with memmap-on-memory enabled, online it.
>>
>> That's my point: I don't consider either very likely to be used by actual
>> admins.
>>
>> I guess in (1) it really only is a problem with very big memory blocks.
>> Assuming a memory block is just 128 MiB (or even 1 GiB), you can add+online
>> them individually. Once you succeeded with the first one (very likely), the
>> other ones will follow.
>>
>> Sure, if you are so low on memory that you cannot even a single memory
>> block, then memmap-on-memory makes sense.
>>
>> But note that memmap-on-memory was added to handle hotplug of large chunks
>> of memory (large DIMM/NVDIMM, large CXL device) in one go, without the
>> chance to add+online individual memory blocks incrementally.
> 
> Interesting. Thanks David.
> 
> Heiko suggested that memory increment size could also be upto
> 64GB. In that case, it might be useful.

Yeha, rings a bell. But that would not be your 4GiB scenario you shared :)

-- 
Cheers

David / dhildenb



      reply	other threads:[~2025-10-08  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-26 13:15 Sumanth Korikkar
2025-09-26 13:15 ` [PATCH 1/4] s390/mm: Support removal of boot-allocated virtual memory map Sumanth Korikkar
2025-09-26 13:15 ` [PATCH 2/4] s390/sclp: Add support for dynamic (de)configuration of memory Sumanth Korikkar
2025-10-07 20:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08  6:46     ` Sumanth Korikkar
2025-10-08  8:05       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-26 13:15 ` [PATCH 3/4] s390/sclp: Remove MHP_OFFLINE_INACCESSIBLE Sumanth Korikkar
2025-10-07 19:39   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-26 13:15 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm/memory_hotplug: Remove MEM_PREPARE_ONLINE/MEM_FINISH_OFFLINE notifiers Sumanth Korikkar
2025-10-07 14:30 ` [PATCH 0/4] Support dynamic (de)configuration of memory Sumanth Korikkar
2025-10-07 16:02   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 16:11 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-07 17:56   ` Sumanth Korikkar
2025-10-07 19:35     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08  6:05       ` Sumanth Korikkar
2025-10-08  8:02         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08  9:12           ` Heiko Carstens
2025-10-08  9:43             ` David Hildenbrand
2025-10-08  9:13           ` Sumanth Korikkar
2025-10-08  9:33             ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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