From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Dave Chinner <dgc@kernel.org>
Cc: Tal Zussman <tz2294@columbia.edu>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 2/3] iomap: use BIO_COMPLETE_IN_TASK for dropbehind writeback
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2026 14:24:02 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9e8061a5-980e-4e6a-a349-8a89f9eb1ba6@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acYe1oCInkDLWGGu@infradead.org>
Hi Christiph,
On 2026/3/27 14:08, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2026 at 07:34:45AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
>> At this point, I'd suggest that we should not be making random
>> one-off changes to the iomap and filesystem layers like this just
>> for one operation that needs deferred IO completion work. This needs
>> to considered from the overall perspective of how we defer
>> completion work - there are lots of different paths through
>> filesystems and/or iomap that require/use task deferal for IO
>> completion. We want them all to use the same mechanism - splitting
>> deferal between multiple layers depending on IO type is not a
>> particularly nice thing to be doing...
>
> Yes and no. The XFS/iomap write completions needs special handling
> for merging operation, using different workqueues, and also the
> serialization provided by the per-inode list.
>
> Everything that just needs a dumb user context should be the same,
> though. And this mechanism should work just fine for the T10 PI
> checksums. It does not currently work for the defer to user on error
> used by the fserror reporting, but should be adaptable to that by
> allowing to also defer an I/O completion from an already running
> end_io handler, although that might get ugly.
>
> It should work really well for other places that defer bio completions
> like the erofs decompression handler that recently came up, and it will
I noticed this work, but typically the current EROFS
decompression has two latency-sensitive cases:
- dm-verity calls EROFS completion, yes, in that case, this
work can work well since dm-verity already takes some
merkle tree latencies, and we just don't want to add more
scheduling latencies with another workqueue;
- use EROFS directly, in that case, we still need process
contexts to decompress, but due to Android latency
requirements, they really need per-cpu RT threads instead,
otherwise it will cause serious regression too; but I'm not
sure that case can be replaced by this work since workqueues
don't support RT threads and I guess generic block layer
won't be bothered with that too.
Thanks,
Gao Xiang
> be very useful to implement actually working REQ_NOWAIT support for
> file system writes. So yes, I think we need to look more at the whole
> picture, and I think this is a good building block considering the
> whole picture. I don't think we can coverge on just a single mechanism,
> but having few and generic ones is good.
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-27 6:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-25 18:42 [PATCH RFC v4 0/3] block: enable RWF_DONTCACHE for block devices Tal Zussman
2026-03-25 18:43 ` [PATCH RFC v4 1/3] block: add BIO_COMPLETE_IN_TASK for task-context completion Tal Zussman
2026-03-25 19:54 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-25 20:14 ` Jens Axboe
2026-04-08 18:48 ` Tal Zussman
2026-04-08 19:51 ` Jens Axboe
2026-04-08 22:51 ` Tal Zussman
2026-03-25 20:26 ` Dave Chinner
2026-03-25 20:39 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-26 2:44 ` Dave Chinner
2026-04-08 18:50 ` Tal Zussman
2026-03-25 21:03 ` Bart Van Assche
2026-03-26 3:18 ` Dave Chinner
2026-03-27 6:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-08 19:35 ` Tal Zussman
2026-03-25 18:43 ` [PATCH RFC v4 2/3] iomap: use BIO_COMPLETE_IN_TASK for dropbehind writeback Tal Zussman
2026-03-25 20:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-03-27 6:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-04-08 19:36 ` Tal Zussman
2026-04-08 19:44 ` Tal Zussman
2026-04-08 20:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2026-04-08 20:10 ` Tal Zussman
2026-03-25 20:34 ` Dave Chinner
2026-03-27 6:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-27 6:24 ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2026-03-27 6:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-27 6:45 ` Gao Xiang
2026-03-25 18:43 ` [PATCH RFC v4 3/3] block: enable RWF_DONTCACHE for block devices Tal Zussman
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