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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Russell King' <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v2] ARM: unwind: improve unwinders for noreturn case
Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2024 14:37:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d6057b110034c04b6b590522c8c69cc@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZfwxMuPflqlVyCDd@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

From: Russell King
> Sent: 21 March 2024 13:08
> 
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 12:57:07PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Russell King
> > > Sent: 21 March 2024 12:23
> > ...
> > > > That might mean you can get the BL in the middle of a function
> > > > but where the following instruction is for the 'no stack frame'
> > > > side of the branch.
> > > > That is very likely to break any stack offset calculations.
> > >
> > > No it can't. At any one point in the function, the stack has to be in
> > > a well defined state, so that access to local variables can work, and
> > > also the stack can be correctly unwound. If there exists a point in
> > > the function body which can be reached where the stack could be in two
> > > different states, then the stack can't be restored to the parent
> > > context.
> >
> > Actually you can get there with a function that has a lot of args.
> > So you can have:
> > 	if (...) {
> > 		push x
> > 		bl func
> > 		add %sp, #8
> > 	}
> > 	code;
> > which is fine.
> 
> No you can't.... and that isn't even Arm code. Arm doesn't use %sp.
> Moreover, that "bl" will stomp over the link register, meaning this
> function can not return.

With 9+ arguments they spill to see https://godbolt.org/z/Yj3ovd8bY

Where the compiler generates:
f9:
        cmp     w0, 0
        ble     .L2
        sub     sp, sp, #32
        mov     w7, w0
        mov     w6, w0
        mov     w5, w0
        mov     w4, w0
        mov     w3, w0
        stp     x29, x30, [sp, 16]
        add     x29, sp, 16
        mov     w2, w0
        mov     w1, w0
        str     w0, [sp]
        bl      f
.L2:
        ret


A traceback from inside f() definitely needs to use LR-4
for the stack offset.

(arm64 doesn't seem to support -mno-sched-prolog).

I've failed to get different sized stack frames for the true/false
sides of the branch.
The compiler seems to pre-allocate the space for extra args rather
than using 'push' type instructions.
This was certainly better for some x86 cpu (p-pro?) but has now
gone out of fashion.

	David

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-21 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04  1:39 [PATCH] usercopy: delete __noreturn from usercopy_abort Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-04 15:15 ` Jann Horn
2024-03-04 17:40   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-05  3:31     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  9:32       ` Kees Cook
2024-03-05 11:38         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05 17:58           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-06  4:00             ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-06  9:52             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-06 16:02               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2024-03-09 14:58               ` David Laight
2024-03-18  4:01             ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  2:54   ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-05  3:12     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:19 ` [PATCH] ARM: unwind: improve unwinders for noreturn case Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  2:46   ` Kees Cook
2024-03-20  3:30     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:34       ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-03-20  3:46         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  3:44 ` [PATCH v2] " Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20  8:45   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-20 15:30     ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 19:40       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21  9:44         ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-21 10:22           ` David Laight
2024-03-21 11:23             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:07               ` David Laight
2024-03-21 12:22                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 12:57                   ` David Laight
2024-03-21 13:08                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 14:37                       ` David Laight [this message]
2024-03-21 14:56                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 15:20                           ` David Laight
2024-03-21 15:33                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-21 22:43               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2024-03-22  0:08                 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22  9:24                   ` David Laight
2024-03-22  9:52                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-03-22 12:54                       ` Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-22 14:16                       ` David Laight
2024-03-20 15:41 ` [PATCH v3] " Jiangfeng Xiao
2024-03-20 19:42   ` Russell King (Oracle)

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