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From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	"Yin, Fengwei" <fengwei.yin@intel.com>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: ANON_LARGE_FOLIOS meeting follow-up & refined proposal
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2023 08:37:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9d13a144-a36c-45d1-b7db-a08f84fa54ca@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <caa738eb-bbb3-870e-9fc4-a7a27a1d8e3b@redhat.com>

On 02/10/2023 13:58, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>> My concern is that the "fresh start" is not as simple as it appears. I've come
>> to the conclusion that if we have a new interface, then it should really be a
>> strict superset of THP to make it extensible in future. But that opens questions
> 
> ^ +1
> 
>> about how you configure PMD-sized allocations when both interfaces disagree. For
>> "enabled" its fairly straightforward; you can do a logical OR. But its less
>> clear how to handle disagreement over defrag. And then you have huge_zero_page
>> and khugepaged etc, which might just stay with THP. But eventually we will
> 
> Probably we want everything that THP had (khugepaged, zeropage, ...) also on
> some (selected?) smaller orders.
> 
>> probably want to do async collapse for smaller order folios too, and at that
>> point you have to duplicate all those controls... So I concluded that actually
>> it is cleaner to just bolt on a small-order extension to THP. I've updated all
>> the docs, and that was pretty simple to do, which usually suggests that the
>> extension is purely additive and shouldn't be confusing.
> 
> Fine with me. I don't quite like bitmaps exposed to user space, though. Just
> having a user-readable list or a "directory" with various options as files might
> be cleaner ...
> 
>>
>> Take a look at the patches, then make a judgement ;-)
>>
> 
> ... but we'll discuss it there :)
> 

David, FYI, the patches are posted at [1] (you're cc'ed) and have been in
mm-unstable for nearly a week - so I guess they will go to mm-stable soon by
default. So if you want to object to any of it, now's the time ;-).

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20230929114421.3761121-1-ryan.roberts@arm.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-05  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-14  8:16 Ryan Roberts
2023-09-22 15:48 ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-23  0:33   ` John Hubbard
2023-09-25  8:51     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-26 18:31       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-27  7:23         ` Ryan Roberts
2023-09-27 15:32           ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-27 19:04             ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-02 12:58               ` David Hildenbrand
2023-10-05  7:37                 ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
     [not found]                   ` <c60321ef-8596-8fa0-7367-f43e69e1d894@redhat.com>
2023-10-05  9:46                     ` Ryan Roberts
2023-10-06 11:53                       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-26 18:34       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-26  8:13   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2023-09-26 18:29   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-09-26 18:26 ` David Hildenbrand

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