linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 12/18] arm64/mm: Wire up PTE_CONT for user mappings
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:58:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9cb2b8c6-aac8-4130-8558-6646817689e0@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZdNxSRR9MgvtMVao@arm.com>

On 19/02/2024 15:18, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 12:53:43PM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>> On 16/02/2024 12:25, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 10:31:59AM +0000, Ryan Roberts wrote:
>>>> +pte_t contpte_ptep_get_lockless(pte_t *orig_ptep)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	/*
>>>> +	 * Gather access/dirty bits, which may be populated in any of the ptes
>>>> +	 * of the contig range. We may not be holding the PTL, so any contiguous
>>>> +	 * range may be unfolded/modified/refolded under our feet. Therefore we
>>>> +	 * ensure we read a _consistent_ contpte range by checking that all ptes
>>>> +	 * in the range are valid and have CONT_PTE set, that all pfns are
>>>> +	 * contiguous and that all pgprots are the same (ignoring access/dirty).
>>>> +	 * If we find a pte that is not consistent, then we must be racing with
>>>> +	 * an update so start again. If the target pte does not have CONT_PTE
>>>> +	 * set then that is considered consistent on its own because it is not
>>>> +	 * part of a contpte range.
>>>> +*/
> [...]
>>> After writing the comments above, I think I figured out that the whole
>>> point of this loop is to check that the ptes in the contig range are
>>> still consistent and the only variation allowed is the dirty/young
>>> state to be passed to the orig_pte returned. The original pte may have
>>> been updated by the time this loop finishes but I don't think it
>>> matters, it wouldn't be any different than reading a single pte and
>>> returning it while it is being updated.
>>
>> Correct. The pte can be updated at any time, before after or during the reads.
>> That was always the case. But now we have to cope with a whole contpte block
>> being repainted while we are reading it. So we are just checking to make sure
>> that all the ptes that we read from the contpte block are consistent with
>> eachother and therefore we can trust that the access/dirty bits we gathered are
>> consistent.
> 
> I've been thinking a bit more about this - do any of the callers of
> ptep_get_lockless() check the dirty/access bits? The only one that seems
> to care is ptdump but in that case I'd rather see the raw bits for
> debugging rather than propagating the dirty/access bits to the rest in
> the contig range.
> 
> So with some clearer documentation on the requirements, I think we don't
> need an arm64-specific ptep_get_lockless() (unless I missed something).

We've discussed similar at [1]. And I've posted an RFC series to convert all
ptep_get_lockless() to ptep_get_lockless_norecency() at [2]. The current spec
for ptep_get_lockless() is that it includes the access and dirty bits. So we
can't just read the single pte - if there is a tlb eviction followed by
re-population for the block, the access/dirty bits could move and that will
break pte_same() comparisons which are used in places.

So the previous conclusion was that we are ok to put this arm64-specific
ptep_get_lockless() in for now, but look to simplify by migrating to
ptep_get_lockless_norecency() in future. Are you ok with that approach?

[1]
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/a91cfe1c-289e-4828-8cfc-be34eb69a71b@redhat.com/
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20240215121756.2734131-1-ryan.roberts@arm.com/

Thanks,
Ryan



  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-20 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-15 10:31 [PATCH v6 00/18] Transparent Contiguous PTEs for User Mappings Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 01/18] mm: Clarify the spec for set_ptes() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 02/18] mm: thp: Batch-collapse PMD with set_ptes() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 03/18] mm: Introduce pte_advance_pfn() and use for pte_next_pfn() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 10:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 04/18] arm64/mm: Convert pte_next_pfn() to pte_advance_pfn() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 10:42   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 11:17   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-15 18:27   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 05/18] x86/mm: " Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 10:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 06/18] mm: Tidy up pte_next_pfn() definition Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 10:43   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 07/18] arm64/mm: Convert READ_ONCE(*ptep) to ptep_get(ptep) Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:18   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-15 18:34   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 08/18] arm64/mm: Convert set_pte_at() to set_ptes(..., 1) Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:19   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-15 18:34   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 09/18] arm64/mm: Convert ptep_clear() to ptep_get_and_clear() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:20   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-15 18:35   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 10/18] arm64/mm: New ptep layer to manage contig bit Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:23   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-15 19:21   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 11/18] arm64/mm: Split __flush_tlb_range() to elide trailing DSB Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:24   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-15 19:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:31 ` [PATCH v6 12/18] arm64/mm: Wire up PTE_CONT for user mappings Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:27   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-16 12:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-16 12:53     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-16 16:56       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-16 19:54         ` John Hubbard
2024-02-20 19:50           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-02-19 15:18       ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-20 19:58         ` Ryan Roberts [this message]
2024-02-15 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 13/18] arm64/mm: Implement new wrprotect_ptes() batch API Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:28   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-16 12:30   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 14/18] arm64/mm: Implement new [get_and_]clear_full_ptes() batch APIs Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:28   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-16 12:30   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 15/18] mm: Add pte_batch_hint() to reduce scanning in folio_pte_batch() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 16/18] arm64/mm: Implement pte_batch_hint() Ryan Roberts
2024-02-16 12:34   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 17/18] arm64/mm: __always_inline to improve fork() perf Ryan Roberts
2024-02-16 12:34   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-02-15 10:32 ` [PATCH v6 18/18] arm64/mm: Automatically fold contpte mappings Ryan Roberts
2024-02-15 11:30   ` Mark Rutland
2024-02-16 12:35   ` Catalin Marinas
2024-06-24 14:30   ` Kefeng Wang
2024-06-24 15:56     ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-25  3:16       ` Kefeng Wang
2024-06-25  7:23         ` Baolin Wang
2024-06-25 11:40           ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-25 12:37             ` Baolin Wang
2024-06-25 12:41               ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-25 13:06                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-25 13:41                   ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-25 14:06                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2024-06-25 14:45                       ` Ryan Roberts
2024-06-25 12:23           ` Kefeng Wang
2024-02-15 11:36 ` [PATCH v6 00/18] Transparent Contiguous PTEs for User Mappings Mark Rutland

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=9cb2b8c6-aac8-4130-8558-6646817689e0@arm.com \
    --to=ryan.roberts@arm.com \
    --cc=21cnbao@gmail.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=apopple@nvidia.com \
    --cc=ardb@kernel.org \
    --cc=bp@alien8.de \
    --cc=catalin.marinas@arm.com \
    --cc=dave.hansen@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=david@redhat.com \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=james.morse@arm.com \
    --cc=jhubbard@nvidia.com \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org \
    --cc=mark.rutland@arm.com \
    --cc=maz@kernel.org \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com \
    --cc=shy828301@gmail.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    --cc=willy@infradead.org \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=ziy@nvidia.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox