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From: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Isaac Manjarres <isaacmanjarres@google.com>,
	Saravana Kannan <saravanak@google.com>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/13] dma: arm64: Add CONFIG_DMA_BOUNCE_UNALIGNED_KMALLOC and enable it for arm64
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 15:24:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9c453c00-7950-9932-0fa6-5478d5cf44f1@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221107143849.GA27946@lst.de>

On 2022-11-07 14:38, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2022 at 01:03:31PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
>> On 2022-11-06 22:01, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> With all the infrastructure in place for bouncing small kmalloc()
>>> buffers, add the corresponding Kconfig entry and select it for arm64.
>>
>> AFAICS we're missing the crucial part to ensure that SWIOTLB is available
>> even when max_pfn <= arm64_dma_phys_limit, which is very likely to be true
>> on low-memory systems that care most about kmalloc wastage. The only way to
>> override that currently is with "swiotlb=force", but bouncing *everything*
>> is not desirable either.
> 
> FYI, one of the reasons for the swiotlb_init refactor that passes
> flags and a boolean a while ago is that we can trivially just either
> pass another flag or check a condition in swiotlb_init to allocate the
> buffer.  There's actually another case for which we need the
> unconditional allocation, and that is the bouncing for untrusted
> external devices with dma-iommu.

Right, I guess machines with Thunderbolt and all the firmware 
annotations but less than 4GB of RAM are unlikely to exist in the wild, 
so the untrusted bouncing logic has been getting lucky so far. There are 
however plenty of arm64 systems with small amounts of RAM and 
non-coherent USB so in this case someone's likely to fall over it pretty 
much right away. I know it's easy to add a new condition, but it still 
has to actually *be* added.

Thanks,
Robin.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-07 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-06 22:01 [PATCH v3 00/13] mm, dma, arm64: Reduce ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN to 8 Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] mm/slab: Decouple ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN from ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] dma-mapping: Force bouncing if the kmalloc() size is not cacheline-aligned Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07  9:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] iommu/dma: Force bouncing of the " Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07  9:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-07 10:54     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07 13:26       ` Robin Murphy
2022-11-08 10:51         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-11-08 11:40           ` Robin Murphy
2022-11-08  7:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-14 23:23   ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-11-15 11:48     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] mm/slab: Allow kmalloc() minimum alignment fallback to dma_get_cache_alignment() Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07  0:50   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-07  9:22     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07  1:51   ` kernel test robot
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] mm/slab: Simplify create_kmalloc_cache() args and make it static Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] dma: Allow the smaller cache_line_size() returned by dma_get_cache_alignment() Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] drivers/base: Use ARCH_DMA_MINALIGN instead of ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] drivers/gpu: " Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] drivers/usb: " Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] drivers/spi: " Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07 12:58   ` Mark Brown
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] crypto: " Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07  2:22   ` Herbert Xu
2022-11-07  9:05     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07  9:12       ` Herbert Xu
2022-11-07  9:38         ` Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] drivers/md: " Catalin Marinas
2022-11-06 22:01 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] dma: arm64: Add CONFIG_DMA_BOUNCE_UNALIGNED_KMALLOC and enable it for arm64 Catalin Marinas
2022-11-07 13:03   ` Robin Murphy
2022-11-07 14:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-07 15:24       ` Robin Murphy [this message]
2022-11-08  9:52     ` Catalin Marinas
2022-11-08 10:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-11-30 18:48         ` Isaac Manjarres
2022-11-30 23:32           ` Alexander Graf
2023-04-20 11:51             ` Petr Tesařík
2023-03-16 18:38 ` [PATCH v3 00/13] mm, dma, arm64: Reduce ARCH_KMALLOC_MINALIGN to 8 Isaac Manjarres
2023-04-19 16:06   ` Catalin Marinas
2023-04-20  9:52     ` Petr Tesarik
2023-04-20 17:43       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-05-15 19:09     ` Isaac Manjarres
2023-05-16 17:19       ` Catalin Marinas
2023-05-16 18:19         ` Isaac Manjarres

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