From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, david@redhat.com,
mhocko@kernel.org, zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com,
lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com, hughd@google.com,
willy@infradead.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: vmscan: remove folio_test_private() check in pageout()
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 21:00:07 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9b01a2cc-7cdb-e008-f5bc-ff9aa313621a@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02798d6c-1ad3-4109-be3a-e09feb5e4eda@linux.alibaba.com>
On Sat, 13 Sep 2025, Baolin Wang wrote:
> On 2025/9/13 00:13, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 11:45:07AM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
> >> Currently, we no longer attempt to write back filesystem folios in
> >> pageout(),
> >> and only tmpfs/shmem folios and anonymous swapcache folios can be written
> >> back.
> >> Moreover, tmpfs/shmem and swapcache folios do not use the PG_private flag,
> >> which means no fs-private private data is used. Therefore, we can remove
> >> the
> >> redundant folio_test_private() checks and related buffer_head release
> >> logic.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>
> >> ---
> >> mm/vmscan.c | 16 +---------------
> >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 15 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> >> index f1fc36729ddd..8056fccb9cc4 100644
> >> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> >> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> >> @@ -697,22 +697,8 @@ static pageout_t pageout(struct folio *folio, struct
> >> address_space *mapping,
> >> * swap_backing_dev_info is bust: it doesn't reflect the
> >> * congestion state of the swapdevs. Easy to fix, if needed.
> >> */
> >> - if (!is_page_cache_freeable(folio))
> >> + if (!is_page_cache_freeable(folio) || !mapping)
> >> return PAGE_KEEP;
> >> - if (!mapping) {
> >> - /*
> >> - * Some data journaling orphaned folios can have
> >> - * folio->mapping == NULL while being dirty with clean
> >> buffers.
> >> - */
> >
> > Can this case not happen anymore and try_to_free_buffers is not needed?
>
> For dirty file folios, pageout() will return PAGE_KEEP and put them back on
> the LRU list. So even if mapping = NULL, background workers for writeback will
> continue to handle them, rather than in shrink_folio_list().
You've persuaded everyone else, but I'm still not convinced:
what are those "background workers for writeback",
that manage to work on orphaned folios with NULL mapping?
I think *this* is the place which deals with that case, and you're
now proposing to remove it (and returning PAGE_KEEP not PAGE_CLEAN,
so it misses the filemap_release_folio() below the switch(pageout())).
There's even a comment over in migrate_folio_unmap():
"Everywhere else except page reclaim, the page is invisible to the vm".
And your argument that the code *afterwards* rejects everything but
shmem or anon, and neither of those would have folio_test_private(),
certainly did not convince me.
Please persuade me. But I've no evidence that this case does or does
not still arise; and agree that there must be cleaner ways of doing it.
Hugh
> >> - if (folio_test_private(folio)) {
> >> - if (try_to_free_buffers(folio)) {
> >> - folio_clear_dirty(folio);
> >> - pr_info("%s: orphaned folio\n", __func__);
> >> - return PAGE_CLEAN;
> >> - }
> >> - }
> >> - return PAGE_KEEP;
> >> - }
> >>
> >> if (!shmem_mapping(mapping) && !folio_test_anon(folio))
> >> return PAGE_ACTIVATE;
> >> --
> >> 2.43.7
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-16 4:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-12 3:45 [PATCH 0/2] some cleanups for pageout() Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 3:45 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: vmscan: remove folio_test_private() check in pageout() Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 8:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 8:24 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 8:31 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 8:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 9:03 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 8:57 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 15:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-13 3:04 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-15 20:47 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-09-18 2:45 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 16:13 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-13 3:24 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-15 20:00 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-09-16 4:00 ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2025-09-16 7:18 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-17 3:50 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-17 7:49 ` Hugh Dickins
2025-09-18 2:22 ` Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 3:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: vmscan: simplify the folio refcount " Baolin Wang
2025-09-12 8:58 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-09-12 16:16 ` Shakeel Butt
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