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From: Huan Yang <link@vivo.com>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Xu Xin <xu.xin16@zte.com.cn>,
	Chengming Zhou <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Matthew Brost <matthew.brost@intel.com>,
	Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>,
	Rakie Kim <rakie.kim@sk.com>, Byungchul Park <byungchul@sk.com>,
	Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)" <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Usama Arif <usamaarif642@gmail.com>, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/9] introduce PGTY_mgt_entry page_type
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 09:47:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9a0eade4-8981-4379-8260-e673a1803d56@vivo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bjp93vb6.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>


在 2025/7/25 09:37, Huang, Ying 写道:
> Huan Yang <link@vivo.com> writes:
>
>> 在 2025/7/24 17:15, Lorenzo Stoakes 写道:
> [snip]
>
>>> On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 04:44:28PM +0800, Huan Yang wrote:
>>>> Summary
>>>> ==
>>>> This patchset reuses page_type to store migrate entry count during the
>>>> period from migrate entry setup to removal, enabling accelerated VMA
>>>> traversal when removing migrate entries, following a similar principle to
>>>> early termination when folio is unmapped in try_to_migrate.
>>>>
>>>> In my self-constructed test scenario, the migration time can be reduced
>>>> from over 150+ms to around 30+ms, achieving nearly a 70% performance
>>>> improvement. Additionally, the flame graph shows that the proportion of
>>>> remove_migration_ptes can be reduced from 80%+ to 60%+.
>>> This sounds completely contrived. I don't even know if you have a use case
>>> here.
>> The test case I provided does have an amplified effect, but the
>> optimization it demonstrates is real. It's just that when scaled up to
>> the system level, the effect becomes difficult to observe.
>>
> It's more important to sell your problems than selling your code :-)
I'll remember it. Thanks. :)
>
> If you cannot prove that the optimization has some practical effect,
> it's hard to persuade others for increased complexity.

To be honest, this patch stems from an issue I noticed during code review.

When this patchset was completed, I did put in some effort to find its 
benefits, and it was only

under such an exaggeratedly constructed test scenario that the effect 
could be demonstrated. :(

The actual problem I'm facing has been described in other replies.

It's actually about some anonymous pages and fully COW-ed pages, but 
their avcs haven't been

removed from the anon_vma's RB tree, resulting in inefficient traversal.

Lorenzo has mentioned that he has some bold ideas regarding this, let's 
look forward it. :)

Thanks.

>
> ---
> Best Regards,
> Huang, Ying


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-25  1:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-24  8:44 Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] mm: introduce PAGE_TYPE_SHIFT Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] mm: add page_type value helper Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] mm/rmap: simplify rmap_walk invoke Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] mm/rmap: add args in rmap_walk_control done hook Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] mm/rmap: introduce exit hook Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] mm/rmap: introduce migrate_walk_arg Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] mm/migrate: rename rmap_walk_arg folio Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] mm/migrate: infrastructure for migrate entry page_type Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:44 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] mm/migrate: apply " Huan Yang
2025-07-24  8:59 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] introduce PGTY_mgt_entry page_type David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:09   ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:12     ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:20       ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:32         ` David Hildenbrand
2025-07-24  9:36           ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:45             ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24  9:56               ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:58                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24 10:01                   ` Huan Yang
2025-07-24  9:15 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-07-24  9:29   ` Huan Yang
2025-07-25  1:37     ` Huang, Ying
2025-07-25  1:47       ` Huan Yang [this message]
2025-07-25  9:26         ` David Hildenbrand

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