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From: Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	dennis@kernel.org, tj@kernel.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/util: fix a data race in __vm_enough_memory()
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 21:22:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9B86F7FF-C892-4F58-A24E-E0728D2637BC@lca.pw> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200130181834.633c201c7d0a2638aacbc7ba@linux-foundation.org>



> On Jan 30, 2020, at 9:18 PM, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 13:35:18 +0100 Marco Elver <elver@google.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 12:50, Qian Cai <cai@lca.pw> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 29, 2020, at 11:20 PM, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm really not a fan of exposing the internals of a percpu_counter outside
>>>> the percpu_counter.h file.  Why shouldn't this be fixed by putting the
>>>> READ_ONCE() inside percpu_counter_read()?
>>> 
>>> It is because not all places suffer from a data race. For example, in __wb_update_bandwidth(), it was protected by a lock. I was a bit worry about blindly adding READ_ONCE() inside percpu_counter_read() might has unexpected side-effect. For example, it is unnecessary to have READ_ONCE() for a volatile variable. So, I thought just to keep the change minimal with a trade off by exposing a bit internal details as you mentioned.
>>> 
>>> However, I had also copied the percpu maintainers to see if they have any preferences?
>> 
>> I would not add READ_ONCE to percpu_counter_read(), given the writes
>> (increments) are not atomic either, so not much is gained.
>> 
>> Notice that this is inside a WARN_ONCE, so you may argue that a data
>> race here doesn't matter to the correct behaviour of the system
>> (except if you have panic_on_warn on).
>> 
>> For the warning to trigger, vm_committed_as must decrease. Assume that
>> a data race (assuming bad compiler optimizations) can somehow
>> accomplish this, then the load or write must cause a transient value
>> to somehow be less than a stable value. My hypothesis is this is very
>> unlikely.
>> 
>> Given the fact this is a WARN_ONCE, and the fact that a transient
>> decrease in the value is unlikely, you may consider
>> 'VM_WARN_ONCE(data_race(percpu_counter_read(&vm_committed_as)) <
>> ...)'. That way you won't modify percpu_counter_read and still catch
>> unintended races elsewhere.
>> 
> 
> That, or add an alternative version of per_cpu_counter_read() to the
> percpu API.  A very carefully commented version!

 I send a patch to use data_race() which should be sufficient,

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20200130145649.1240-1-cai@lca.pw/

      reply	other threads:[~2020-01-31  2:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-30  2:51 Qian Cai
2020-01-30  4:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-01-30 11:50   ` Qian Cai
2020-01-30 12:35     ` Marco Elver
2020-01-31  2:18       ` Andrew Morton
2020-01-31  2:22         ` Qian Cai [this message]

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