From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
"Liam R. Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
Sidhartha Kumar <sidhartha.kumar@oracle.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rcu@vger.kernel.org, maple-tree@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 14:13:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <98f10e2a-7a02-42e8-8042-984ed82d5ba7@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e7055a9-f899-4aad-8ed7-6543077c05d1@paulmck-laptop>
On 9/17/25 13:36, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 11:55:10AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 9/17/25 10:30, Harry Yoo wrote:
>> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 10:01:06AM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> >> +/* needed for kvfree_rcu_barrier() */
>> >> +void flush_all_rcu_sheaves()
>> >> +{
>> >> + struct slub_percpu_sheaves *pcs;
>> >> + struct slub_flush_work *sfw;
>> >> + struct kmem_cache *s;
>> >> + bool flushed = false;
>> >> + unsigned int cpu;
>> >> +
>> >> + cpus_read_lock();
>> >> + mutex_lock(&slab_mutex);
>> >> +
>> >> + list_for_each_entry(s, &slab_caches, list) {
>> >> + if (!s->cpu_sheaves)
>> >> + continue;
>> >> +
>> >> + mutex_lock(&flush_lock);
>> >> +
>> >> + for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
>> >> + sfw = &per_cpu(slub_flush, cpu);
>> >> + pcs = per_cpu_ptr(s->cpu_sheaves, cpu);
>> >> +
>> >> + if (!pcs->rcu_free || !pcs->rcu_free->size) {
>> >
>> > Is the compiler allowed to compile this to read pcs->rcu_free twice?
>> > Something like:
>> >
>> > flush_all_rcu_sheaves() __kfree_rcu_sheaf()
>> >
>> > pcs->rcu_free != NULL
>> > pcs->rcu_free = NULL
>> > pcs->rcu_free == NULL
>> > /* NULL-pointer-deref */
>> > pcs->rcu_free->size
>>
>> Good point, I'll remove the size check and simply pcs->rcu_free non-null
>> means we flush.
>>
>> >> + sfw->skip = true;
>> >> + continue;
>> >> + }
>> >>
>> >> + INIT_WORK(&sfw->work, flush_rcu_sheaf);
>> >> + sfw->skip = false;
>> >> + sfw->s = s;
>> >> + queue_work_on(cpu, flushwq, &sfw->work);
>> >> + flushed = true;
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> + for_each_online_cpu(cpu) {
>> >> + sfw = &per_cpu(slub_flush, cpu);
>> >> + if (sfw->skip)
>> >> + continue;
>> >> + flush_work(&sfw->work);
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> + mutex_unlock(&flush_lock);
>> >> + }
>> >> +
>> >> + mutex_unlock(&slab_mutex);
>> >> + cpus_read_unlock();
>> >> +
>> >> + if (flushed)
>> >> + rcu_barrier();
>> >
>> > I think we need to call rcu_barrier() even if flushed == false?
>> >
>> > Maybe a kvfree_rcu()'d object was already waiting for the rcu callback to
>> > be processed before flush_all_rcu_sheaves() is called, and
>> > in flush_all_rcu_sheaves() we skipped all (cache, cpu) pairs,
>> > so flushed == false but the rcu callback isn't processed yet
>> > by the end of the function?
>> >
>> > That sounds like a very unlikely to happen in a realistic scenario,
>> > but still possible...
>>
>> Yes also good point, will flush unconditionally.
>>
>> Maybe in __kfree_rcu_sheaf() I should also move the call_rcu(...) before
>> local_unlock(). So we don't end up seeing a NULL pcs->rcu_free in
>> flush_all_rcu_sheaves() because __kfree_rcu_sheaf() already set it to NULL,
>> but didn't yet do the call_rcu() as it got preempted after local_unlock().
>>
>> But then rcu_barrier() itself probably won't mean we make sure such cpus
>> finished the local_locked section, if we didn't queue work on them. So maybe
>> we need synchronize_rcu()?
>
> Do you need both rcu_barrier() and synchronize_rcu(), maybe along with
We need the local_lock protected sections of __kfree_rcu_sheaf() to be
finished (which might be doing call_rcu(rcu_sheaf) And then the pending
call_rcu(rcu_sheaf) callbacks to be executed.
I think that means both synchronize_rcu() and rcu_barrier(). Possibly a RCU
critical section in __kfree_rcu_sheaf() unless local_lock implies that even
on RT.
> kvfree_rcu_barrier() as well?
This (flush_all_rcu_sheaves()) is for the implementation of
kvfree_rcu_barrier() in a world with rcu_free sheaves. So it's called from
kvfree_rcu_barrier().
> It would not be hard to make such a thing,
> using workqueues or some such. Not sure what the API should look like,
So there should be no one else calling such an API. There might be new users
of kvfree_rcu_barrier() doing this indirectly in the future.
> especially should people want other RCU flavors to get into the act
> as well.
>
> Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-17 12:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-10 8:01 [PATCH v8 00/23] SLUB percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 01/23] locking/local_lock: Expose dep_map in local_trylock_t Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-24 16:49 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 02/23] slab: simplify init_kmem_cache_nodes() error handling Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-24 16:52 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 03/23] slab: add opt-in caching layer of percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-12-02 8:48 ` [PATCH] slub: add barn_get_full_sheaf() and refine empty-main sheaf Hao Li
2025-12-02 8:55 ` Hao Li
2025-12-02 9:00 ` slub: add barn_get_full_sheaf() and refine empty-main sheaf replacement Hao Li
2025-12-03 5:46 ` Harry Yoo
2025-12-03 11:15 ` Hao Li
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-12 0:38 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-09-12 7:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 8:30 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 9:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 11:32 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 12:05 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 13:07 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 13:21 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 13:34 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-17 14:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-18 8:09 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-19 6:47 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-19 7:02 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-19 8:59 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25 4:35 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-25 8:52 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-25 13:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-26 10:08 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 15:41 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-17 11:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-09-17 12:13 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-10-31 21:32 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-11-03 3:17 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-05 11:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-27 14:00 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-11-27 19:29 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-11-28 11:37 ` [PATCH V1] mm/slab: introduce kvfree_rcu_barrier_on_cache() for cache destruction Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 12:22 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 12:38 ` Daniel Gomez
2025-12-02 9:29 ` Jon Hunter
2025-12-02 10:18 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 11:38 ` [PATCH v8 04/23] slab: add sheaf support for batching kfree_rcu() operations Jon Hunter
2025-11-27 11:50 ` Jon Hunter
2025-11-27 12:33 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 12:48 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-28 8:57 ` Jon Hunter
2025-12-01 6:55 ` Harry Yoo
2025-11-27 13:18 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-11-28 8:59 ` Jon Hunter
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 05/23] slab: sheaf prefilling for guaranteed allocations Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 06/23] slab: determine barn status racily outside of lock Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 07/23] slab: skip percpu sheaves for remote object freeing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:14 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 08/23] slab: allow NUMA restricted allocations to use percpu sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:27 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 09/23] maple_tree: remove redundant __GFP_NOWARN Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 10/23] tools/testing/vma: clean up stubs in vma_internal.h Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 11/23] maple_tree: Drop bulk insert support Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 12/23] tools/testing/vma: Implement vm_refcnt reset Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-25 16:38 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 13/23] tools/testing: Add support for changes to slab for sheaves Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 14/23] mm, vma: use percpu sheaves for vm_area_struct cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 15/23] maple_tree: use percpu sheaves for maple_node_cache Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-12 2:20 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-10-16 15:16 ` D, Suneeth
2025-10-16 16:15 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-17 18:26 ` D, Suneeth
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 16/23] tools/testing: include maple-shim.c in maple.c Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:45 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 17/23] testing/radix-tree/maple: Hack around kfree_rcu not existing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-26 23:53 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 18/23] maple_tree: Use kfree_rcu in ma_free_rcu Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-17 11:46 ` Harry Yoo
2025-09-27 0:05 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 19/23] maple_tree: Replace mt_free_one() with kfree() Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 0:06 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 20/23] tools/testing: Add support for prefilled slab sheafs Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 0:28 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 21/23] maple_tree: Prefilled sheaf conversion and testing Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 1:08 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-29 7:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-29 16:51 ` Liam R. Howlett
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 22/23] maple_tree: Add single node allocation support to maple state Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-27 1:17 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-09-29 7:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-09-10 8:01 ` [PATCH v8 23/23] maple_tree: Convert forking to use the sheaf interface Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-07 6:34 ` [PATCH v8 00/23] SLUB percpu sheaves Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-07 8:03 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-08 6:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-10-15 8:32 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-22 6:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
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